准备好了吗？ You ready?
不用 你就…对 别太关注话筒 No, just... Yeah, just-just ignore the microphone.
对 假装它不存在 Yeah, just-just act as if it's not there.
像平常一样唱就行 Sing as if it's not there.
就是⋯ Yeah, uh...
好吧？ Okay?
-做好出场准备没？-好了 -Ready for them? -Yes.
走吧 Let's go.
在场的各位应该 If you're here, then you already know
都认识她 她就是我们这个时代 who she is, and that is one of the most important
音乐界最重要的人物之一 musical figures of our time.
莉迪亚· 塔尔有很多个不同的身份： Lydia Tár is many things:
她是柯蒂斯音乐学院毕业的钢琴演奏家 a piano performance graduate at the Curtis Institute,
也是哈佛优等生荣誉协会的成员 Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard.
她在维也纳大学拿到了音乐学博士学位 She got her PhD in Musicology from the University of Vienna,
专门研究秘鲁乌卡亚利峡谷地区的 specializing in the indigenous music
民族音乐 of the Ucayali Valley in Eastern Peru,
为了这个研究 她在那里待了整整五年 where she spent five years
期间一直跟当地的辛丕伯-寇尼博人一起生活 among the Shipibo-Konibo people.
塔尔指挥生涯的起点 As a conductor, Tár began her career
是有着“全美五大管弦乐团之一”之称的 with the Cleveland Orchestra,
克利夫兰管弦乐团 one of the so-called "Big Five."
此后 她跟“五大”中的其他乐团开展了合作 A string of important posts followed,
其中包括费城交响乐团 including the Philadelphia Orchestra,
芝加哥交响乐团 the Chicago Symphony Orchestra,
波士顿交响乐团 the Boston Symphony Orchestra,
最终 她来到了这里 until she at last arrived here
在我们的纽约爱乐乐团担任指挥 at our own New York Philharmonic.
在指挥纽约爱乐期间 她在扎塔里难民营 With the latter, she organized
组织举办了10号高速路难民营音乐会 the Highway 10 refugee concerts in Zaatari,
吸引到了七万五千多个观众到场聆听 which were attended by over 75,000 people.
她对詹妮弗·希格顿、卡洛琳·肖 She's become particularly well-known
茱莉亚·沃尔夫和希尔迪·居兹纳多蒂尔等作曲家的 for commissioning contemporary work
当代音乐作品的演绎 from, among others, Jennifer Higdon, Caroline Shaw,
为她铸就了偌大的名声 Julia Wolfe and Hildur Gudnadóttir.
而且 她还专门用解析古典时代大师作品的方式 And she's made a point of programming their works
来分析演绎这些现代作曲家的作品 alongside composers of the canon.
她曾经说过 She's been quoted as saying,
“这些作曲家都在通过作品跟外界交流” "These composers are having a conversation
“但有些作曲家的口吻和态度可能不是那么的温和” and it may not always be so polite."
莉迪亚·塔尔还为各类舞台剧和影视剧创作背景音乐 Lydia Tár has also written music for the stage and screen.
她就是其中之一 She is in fact one of only 15 so-called EGOTs, meaning those
所谓EGOT指的就是文娱界的四个主要奖项： who have won all four major entertainment awards:
艾美奖、格莱美奖、奥斯卡奖和托尼奖 an Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar and a Tony.
可想而知 拿全这四个奖项的人 It is, as you can imagine,
寥寥无几 屈指可数 an extremely short and shimmering list
其中包括理查德·罗杰斯、奥黛丽·赫本 that includes Richard Rodgers, Audrey Hepburn,
安德鲁·劳埃德·韦伯 当然啦 还有梅尔布鲁克斯 Andrew Lloyd Webber and, of course, Mel Brooks.
2010年 在艾略特·卡普兰的支持下 In 2010, with the support of Eliot Kaplan,
她组建了手风琴指挥协会 she founded the Accordion Conducting Fellowship,
为女指挥者们提供商业协助 which fosters entrepreneurship and performance opportunities
和演出机会 让她们去世界知名的 for female conductors, allowing them residencies
交响乐团工作 游学 with major orchestras around the world.
2013年 柏林爱乐乐团邀请塔尔 In 2013, Berlin elected Tár as its principal conductor,
接任安德里斯·戴维斯 担当该团的首席指挥 in succession to Andris Davis,
之后 她就在那里工作至今 and she's remained there ever since.
像她的导师伦纳德·伯恩斯坦一样 Like her mentor, Leonard Bernstein,
塔尔非常喜爱马勒的作品 Tár has a particular affinity for Mahler,
她在五大交响乐团中流转期间 whose nine symphonies she recorded
塔尔跟它们分别录制了马勒九部交响曲的录音 during her Big Five stints.
但是 时至今日 她才跟单一乐团合作录制 However, she never managed to complete
马勒的所有交响曲 完成所谓的“马勒循环” the so-called "cycle" with a single orchestra until now.
在她的引领下 Under her direction,
柏林爱乐乐团己经完成了八部马勒交响乐的录制 Berlin has recorded eight of the Mahler symphonies,
将最难完成的《马勒第五交响曲》留在了最后 saving the big one, Symphony No. 5, for last.
该作品的录制原本应在去年完成 Due to the pandemic, that performance,
但因为新冠疫情 不得不取消了 which was scheduled for last year, had to be canceled.
但我听说 她会在下个月举办音乐会 But I'm told that next month,
演奏《马勒第五交响曲》并对现场进行录音 she'll make a live recording of Mahler's Fifth,
录制完成后 她能就完成整个马勒循环 which will complete the cycle
在马勒诞辰之际 德国留声机公司会将她和柏林爱乐的 and will be issued in a box set by Deutsche Grammophon
这套录音 做成合集发售 just in time for Mahler's birthday.
除此之外 她的新书《审视自我》已经付梓 As if that's not enough, her new book, Tár on Tár,
由南·特丽丝的道布尔戴出版社出版 will be published by Nan Talese's imprint at Doubleday,
并在圣诞节开始发售 这本书简直是一份完美的圣诞礼物 just in time for Christmas, a perfect stocking stuffer,
对那些要准备很务礼物的人来说 更是如此 especially if you have a very large stocking.
我们《纽约客》的全体成员都欢迎您的到来 All of us at The New Yorker welcome you.
感谢您今天接受我们的采访 大师 Thank you for joining us, Maestro, today.
谢谢 亚当 谢谢你 Thank you, Adam. Thank you.
非常感谢 Thank you.
莉迪亚 我刚刚⋯ Lydia, I couldn't...
我注意到 在我念你的生平时 I couldn't help but see you flinch just a little bit
你表现得有些不舒服 as I was reading your bio.
是因为我漏掉了你的哪些成就吗？ Was it because I forgot some other amazing achievement?
还是因为你对自己 Or do you have a slight self-consciousness
精彩纷呈、无比多样的成绩 about the incredibly varied things
而害羞呢？ that you've accomplished?
多样现在己经不是个褒义词了 Well, in today's world, "varied," it-it's a dirty word.
就是 这个年代其实更推崇专精一门专家 I mean, our era is one of specialists,
如果有人想当多面手 and if you're trying to do more than one thing,
大家都会表示不赞成 it's, you know, it's often frowned upon.
艺术家都会发展独有的特色 Every artist gets typecast.
是啊 我们追求的就是这个 Oh, yes. Aggressively so.
你觉得会不会有那么一天 Well, do you think there'll be a moment, though,
古典音乐界 when the classical music community,
不再区别对待 uh, decides not to use sexual distinctions
不同性别的艺术家？ to differentiate artists?
这个问题不该问我 I'm probably the wrong person to ask
因为我不看评论我的文章 since I don't, uh, read reviews.
-从没看过？真的假的？-真的 -Never, really? -No.
但我觉得 那些坚持管女艺术家叫“女大师” But it is odd, I-I think, that anyone ever felt compelled
而不是简单的“大师”的人都很奇怪 to substitute "maestro" with "maestra."
因为 字航员就是一个中性词 不会有人专门说女宇航员 I mean, we don't call women astronauts "astronettes."
也是 Mm-hmm. Right.
但说到性别歧视这个问题 But as to the question of, uh, gender bias,
我个人没什么好说的 I really have nothing to complain about.
同样的马林·阿尔索普、乔安·法莱塔 Nor, for that matter, should Marin Alsop, JoAnn Falletta,
劳伦斯·爱奎尔贝和娜塔莉·斯图兹曼也没资格控诉这方面的问题 uh, Laurence Equilbey and Nathalie Stutzmann.
因为 己经有那么多杰出的女性 I mean, there's so many incredible women
走在了我们前面 为我们打开了局面 who came before us.
就是那些 真的掀起了业内革命的女性 You know, women who did the-the real lifting.
说得真好 That-that's fascinating.
你能不能⋯举个例子？都有谁呢？ Can you... Who, for instance?
好啊 当然能 Uh, okay, sure.
一马当先的就是娜迪亚·布朗热 Uh, first and foremost, Nadia Boulanger.
她的故事其实算得上是皆大欢喜的那种 I mean, that would be the, uh, happy example.
但安东尼娅·布里克的人生就有点凄风苦雨了 Uh, the sad one would be Antonia Brico,
她是一位举世公认的杰出指挥家 who by all accounts was an incredible conductor
但只被乐团授予所谓的“客座指挥〞头衔 but was ghettoized into the nonglamorous status
饱受其辱不说 of a "guest conductor"
同时代的人还一直用猎奇的眼光看待她 and essentially treated as a dog act.
猎奇⋯所以她从来没有 A dog... Uh, she never got the chance
指挥过知名乐团咯？ to lead a major orchestra?
这个倒是有 她曾经指挥过 Well, yes. Yes, she did, uh, conduct
柏林爱乐乐团和大都会歌剧院乐团 the, uh, Berlin Philharmonic, as well as the Met,
但都是作为客座指挥 but, again, only as a guest conductor.
我的意思是 她所处的那个时代⋯ You know, at, I mean, at that time it was...
才是性别歧视最严重的时候 it was all gender spectacle.
但幸运的是 时代不同了 But fortunately, times change,
虽然还有些人把“大师”和“女大师”⋯ and-and the Pauline conversion is...
-“女大师⋯” -⋯分得很清 - "Pauline..." - ... if not complete,
但环境在慢慢地变好 then it's-it's evolving nicely.
一切都还走在正轨上 N-No less, um, having fallen off its horse.
莉迪亚 我们能不能聊聊 Um, Lydia, could we talk a little bit
-作品演绎方面的问题？-嗯 -about, uh, translation? -Mm-hmm.
因为现在还有很多人认为 'Cause I think there's still people
乐团指挥的工作只是打拍子而已 who think of the conductor as a kind of human metronome.
我们工作的一部分确实是打拍子 Well, yeah, that's-that's partly true.
-确实 但是⋯ -但是打对拍子 -Yeah, but it's... -But keeping time,
其实非常重要 it's-it's no small thing.
但你们肯定还要完成其他工作的啊 But I suspect there's a lot more to it than that.
是啊 确实如此 Yeah, well, I-I would hope so, yes.
-但演奏的关键在于找准节拍把控时间 -嗯哼 -But time is the thing. -Uh-huh.
想演绎作品的真实含义 也要靠节拍 Time is-is the essential piece of, uh, interpretation.
没有我 乐队没法开始表演 You cannot start without me.
我给他们定下了演奏的基调 See, I start the clock.
我左手的动作表示需要乐手展示的感觉 但我的右手 Now, my left hand shapes, but my right hand,
另一只手则确定节拍引导乐队的演奏 the second hand, marks time and moves it forward.
但这种动作不是持续的 有时我右手会突然停住 However, unlike a clock, sometimes my second hand stops,
表示演奏要暂停一下 which means that time stops.
整体的感觉就是 Now, the illusion is that, like you,
我要根据乐队当时的演奏状况⋯ I'm responding to the orchestra in real time...
-是的 是这样 -实时做出相应调整 -Right, right. -... making the decision about the right moment
看看是要按这样再来一遍 重头开始重新练 to restart the thing, or reset it,
还是摒弃这种节拍 重新找演绎思路 or throw time out the window altogether.
在实际表演中 演出一开始 The reality is that right from the very beginning,
我就会定下本场表演的节拍⋯ I know precisely what time it is...
-真的？这其实⋯ -与此同时 -Really? That's... -... and the exact moment
借此将想表达的情感和理解传达给观众 that you and I will arrive at our destination together.
我一直都是在排练中 You know, the only real, uh, discovery for me
发现新问题或是有了新理解 is in rehearsal.
从来没在正式表演中灵光一现过 It's never, never in performance.
接下来我要问一个不太好回答的问题 如果让你说一个 Hard question, I know, but if you could define one thing
伯恩斯坦给你留下的最重要的遗产的话 你会选什么？ that Bernstein gave you, what would it be?
Kavvnah Kavvanah.
对 这个词在希伯来语里 Yeah, it's-it's the Hebrew word
是专注于意义或意愿的意思 for attention to meaning or-or intent.
我们要明确地知道 作曲家和大家 You know, what are the composer's priorities,
在接触作品时应该做什么 并理解我们的目的要怎样相辅相成 and what are yours, and how do they complement one another?
好吧 kavvanah 我想 对今天的很多观众来说 Right, kavvanah. I think that's a word that will have
kavvanah这个词应该有另一种含义 a slightly different meaning for many in our audience.
确实 我想也是 Well, yes, yes, I imagine so.
在古典音乐史上 Am I right in thinking that a conductor
指挥这个角色似乎并不是 was not always, uh, an onstage presence
-从一开始就存在的 -是的 你说得没错 -in classical music? -No, that's right.
我在哪本书上读到过 历史上有很长一段时间 I-I think I read someplace that it actually was
一直由乐团的首席小提琴手兼任乐团指挥 the first violin, for a long time, who was responsible.
是的 确实是这样 根本不考虑首席小提琴手 Yes, the first violinist, whether they had any interest
本人的意愿或是能力 or-or skill in it or not.
这一点是由谁、从什么时候开始改变的？ Wh-When did that change, and-and who changed it?
推动这种变化的人是法国作曲家让-巴普蒂斯特·昌利 With the French composer, Jean-Baptiste Lully,
根据记载 他使用一根特别粗大 who reportedly, uh, used a, uh, rather enormous,
且尾端很尖的手杖敲击地面打节拍 rather pointy staff to pound the tempi into the floor.
我觉得他乐团的乐手 It's not something I imagine
应该不太喜欢这种指挥方式 the players particularly, uh, appreciated.
这种指挥方法后来在历史上后无来者 Uh, anyway, uh, that technique ended during a performance
因为吕利一不小心 when Lully accidentally
在指挥时敲到了自己的脚 并因此去世了 stabbed himself in the foot with the thing and died.
对 因为他脚上的伤引发了坏疽 Yeah, of-of-of gangrene.
但不管怎么说⋯ But anyway...
真事儿 Yeah.
实际上 随着乐团规模的扩大 Anyway, but the conductor
指挥家的重要性也在不断加大 really becomes essential as the ensembles get bigger.
这里 我要再用贝多芬的作品举例 And once again, we go back to Beethoven.
邦邦邦邦 邦邦邦邦 ♪ Buh, buh, buh, bum, buh, buh, buh, bum. ♪
前八个音结束后 正式的乐章并未开始 Now, that doesn't start with the eighth note.
在最后一个降调后 The downbeat-- ♪ Buh, buh, buh -- ♪
要停一拍 对吧？ it's silent, right?
这个时候 就需要有人提醒乐队开始演奏 So someone had to start that clock.
要有人站出来 Someone had to, uh, plant their flag in the sand
带领乐队继续完成之后的演奏 懂吗？ and say, "Follow me," you know?
如果乐团的指挥是伦尼的话 那所有乐手 And when that someone was Lenny, the orchestra was led
都会被他带领着 享受一段极其美妙的经历 on the most extraordinary tour of pleasures.
因为他对音乐作品的理解极其深刻 独树一帜 'Cause he knew the music, Mahler especially,
其中又以马勒的作品尤甚 as well or better than anyone.
他也经常在演绎时调整作品的整体节奏 And he would often play with the form.
因为他想让乐手们体验 'Cause he wanted an orchestra to feel
他们见所未见 闻所未闻 that they had never seen, let alone heard
也从来没有演奏过的乐曲 or-or performed any of that music.
他会做一些很极端的发挥 So he-he would do radical things,
比如说让乐队不按原谱的速度和节奏来演奏 like, uh, disregarding the tempo primo
或是在原谱未标识的情况下 or-or ending this phrase molto ritardando,
用减慢结束某个小节 even though it had no such marking.
但他的演绎是否扭曲了作曲家的原意呢？ Was he over-egging it?
一点都没有 Oh, no, no, no. Not at all.
他在快乐地分享他对作品的新感悟 He, he, he celebrated the joy of his discovery.
你刚刚提到 You just told us a moment ago
你会在排练时 对作品产生新的理解 that your discovery takes place in rehearsal.
你准备什么时候开始排练呢？ When will that process begin again for you?
下周一吧 We start on Monday.
-这么快？-是啊 -Immediately? -Mm.
演奏这个作品 其实就是在 With this one, it really is about
尽力猜测马勒的意图 推断他到底想表达什么 trying to read the tea leaves of-of Mahler's intention.
因为我们都比较了解 I mean, we know a great deal about this
他写其他交响曲时的创作意图 with his other symphonies.
吕克特的诗大大激发了他的灵感 You know, he was so inspired by the poetry of Rückert
所以他有很多年都没有以其他作家的作品为题作曲 that for years he didn't set another author to music.
但第五交响曲则不同 But all of this changes with the Five.
这部作品的创作背景很神秘 The Five is a mystery.
他只在手稿的封面上 And the only clue he leaves us
给我们留下了唯一的一条线索 is on the cover of the manuscript itself.
他说 这部作品是献给他的新婚妻子爱尔玛的 Yes, the-the dedication to his new wife, Alma.
所以 如果想理解马勒 So if you're gonna partner with Mahler
在创作第五交响曲时的所思所想 on his, uh, fifth symphony,
首先就必须 the first thing you must do
理解他复杂的婚姻状况 is try to understand that very complex marriage.
那么 您对这段婚姻的理解 And would you say that you have a different interpretation
是否跟伯恩斯坦不同？ of that marriage than Bernstein did?
你之前提到了我在亚马逊雨林里采风的经历 You mentioned my ethnographic fieldwork in the Amazon.
亚当 辛丕伯-寇尼博人认为 Well, Adam, the Shipibo-Konibo
歌手只有在演唱时 only receive an icaro, or song,
完全理解了 if the singer is there, right?
创作者的意图 歌曲的意义才能被传达 On the same side of the-the spirit that-that created it.
由此 过去和现在在音乐中交融 And in that way, the past and the present converge.
这是世界的一体两面 It's the flip sides of the same cosmic coin.
我觉得这样忠于作品本身的演绎才是对的 That definition of fidelity makes sense to me.
但伦尼他更喜欢teshuvah式的演绎 But Lenny, he believed in teshuvah.
这个词在犹太法典里意为 The Talmudic power to reach back into time
回溯时间 并改变 and-and transform the, uh, significance
某人过去的种种行为 of one's past deeds.
所以他在罗伯特·肯尼迪的葬礼上演绎的第五交响曲的第四乐章 So when he played the Adagietto at Robert Kennedy's funeral,
有整整12分钟那么长 it ran for 12 minutes.
他用弥撒曲的方式演绎它 He treated it as a mass.
只要你们听到那段录音 And, you know, if you listen to a recording of it,
就一定会感受到其中悲痛和肃穆的情感 you will no doubt feel the tragedy and-and the pathos.
而这种演绎 And of course that, uh, interpretation
也绝对忠实地展示了马勒晚年的心理状态 was very true for Mahler later in life,
因为那时他的事业陷入低谷 after the professional bottom dropped out
爱尔玛移情别恋喜欢上了格罗佩斯并抛弃了他 and Alma had left him for Gropius.
但就像我之前说过的 时间才是演绎的关键 But, as I said before, we are dealing with time.
这部作品并不是在悲伤的氛围下创作出来的 And this piece was not born into aching tragedy.
它是一段热烈爱情的产物 It was born into young love.
所以你选择⋯ And so you chose...
爱情 Love.
好吧 那多久之后你会改变这种想法呢？ Right, but precisely how long?
这个嘛⋯ Well...
第四乐章演奏完之后吧 seven minutes.
我特别同意您跟亚当说的 I was so taken by what you said to Adam
有关作品演绎 about, um, interpretation
尤其是情感 and specifically about feelings,
还有您选择爱情的那段话 and that you chose love.
我很理解 您的意思是想让观众 And I know it's said that you should leave the tears
品味作品带来的情感共鸣 但是⋯ for the audience, but...
您有没有在指挥时 被音乐中的情感触动 do you ever find yourself overwhelmed by emotion
而感到心潮澎湃不能自己的时刻呢？ when you're up there at the podium?
有啊 Yes.
确实有这种时刻 Yes, that does happen.
有些作品很能满足 There's an... an expectation-reward cycle
我们的一些情感需求 而这些作品中的 with some works and the spots in them
某些部分写得过于精彩 让我在指挥时 that I find so incredible, that when I'm conducting,
极力克制自己加速的欲望 it's not that I'm rushing exactly,
因为我想要快点听到那部分的旋律 but, oh, I just can't wait to get to that spot,
我经常会在指挥的时候被作品触动 and, yeah, it does it. It does it every time.
也就是说 它会同时影响您的生理和心理状态 So it's physical as well as emotional.
-是啊 -哎呀 那肯定要花很久 -Hmm. Hmm. -God, it must take hours
才能平复情绪吧 to come back down to earth.
我在那个状态下说出的话 事后自己都不记得了 You say things after others remember, but you won't.
也根本睡不着 And sleep, it's impossible.
就跟我刚上史密斯学院那阵一样 It's like my freshman year at Smith.
哪部作品会像这样震撼你？ Which piece does that to you?
我去年 Oh, I saw you.
在大都会歌剧院听过 I saw you conduct, uh, The Rite of Spring
您指挥的《春之祭》 at the Met last year.
真的太震撼了 It was so powerful.
谢谢 谢谢你 Thank you. Thank you.
乐曲中的11声枪响… It's... It's the 11 pistol shots--
还有主旋律⋯ it's a prime number--
让人同时感受到了猎物和猎人的情感 that strike you as both victim and perpetrator.
其实 我实在指挥这部作品后 You know, it's not until I conducted it
才相信人真的会自相残杀 that I became convinced we're all capable of murder.
顺便说一句 你的手包非常漂亮 That is a fantastic handbag, by the way.
谢谢 你喜欢它我很高兴 Thank you. I'm glad you like it.
我确实很喜欢 Oh, I do. I do.
抱歉打断一下 您一会儿要跟卡普兰先生吃午饭 Sorry. Your lunch with Mr. Kaplan.
他的司机已经在等您了 His driver is waiting.
好吧 All right.
抱歉 我不记得您的名字了 I-I'm sorry, I've forgotten your name.
-惠特妮 惠特妮·里斯 -惠特妮 -Whitney. Whitney Reese. -Whitney.
对 就是惠特妮 Whitney, of course.
真抱歉 I'm, I'm so sorry,
我现在时间有点紧 and unfortunately I've left things a bit late
-因为有些应酬逃不掉 -这样啊 -and there's something I can't get out of. -Oh.
我理解的 I understand.
以后能跟您短信联系吗？ Can I text you?
够了 阿尔多 It's perfect, Aldo.
我还想跟你庆祝一下呢 Oh. I was hoping we could celebrate.
我也想庆祝呀 No. So was I.
我开始在茱莉亚音乐学院教课了 I've got a class at Juilliard.
挺好啊 Oh, good.
之前答应了本的 I promised Ben.
你应该能为手风琴协会的活动抽出时间的吧 I'm sure you'll have a few elbowing for an Accordion slot.
咱们应该拓展一下成员 We should open up the fellowship.
-多招点人？-不是 性别更多元化一些 -What, expand our numbers? -No, our sex.
成员都是单一性别 感觉挺奇怪的 I mean, it feels quaint to keep things single-gender.
反正意思已经到了 We've made our point.
而且给成员牵线的时候 And, honestly, we've had no real trouble
其实也没遇上什么困难 successfully placing any of them.
有一个遇上了 Except one.
啊 确实 Oh, well.
那是她自己有问题 She had issues.
我听说了 So I've heard.
我每次去花旗银行跟她爸爸开会 The topic comes up in every Citibank meeting
都要聊到这事儿 with her father.
你辛苦了 I'm sorry about that.
也没什么 It's fine.
不算什么大问题 It's nothing I can't handle.
所以 你是想完全违背手风琴的创建宗旨？ So, you want to torpedo Accordion's founding principle?
可能有很多捐助人会撤资的 We'd likely lose donors.
对 我也想到了 Yeah, I suppose that's true.
咱们以后再 M-Maybe it's something we revisit
-详谈这事儿吧 -好啊 -down the line. -Sure.
25号布莱恩公园闭园 Now, Bryant Park's locked for the 25th.
南希让我帮忙填补宣传空窗 Nan asked me to help fill the place,
所以卡普兰基金会会买一些广播 so the Kaplan Fund is gonna buy some radio
和户外广告 and outdoor advertising.
再请点人在媒体上给你造势 And claqueurs.
这个手笔有点太大了 艾略特 It's too big, Eliot.
她之前就应该订下斯特兰德酒店做宣传的 She should have booked the Strand.
没事的 放松点 Relax.
没事的 It'll be great.
而且马上也到你的生日了 And it almost falls on your birthday.
你没去听我在伦敦的《马勒第三交响曲》音乐会 I was, uh, I was sorry you weren't able to make it
佩特拉的学业问题 我有点难过 to my Mahler Three in London.
我也一样 Me, too.
佩特拉的学业问题 Uh, Petra had a school thing.
我跟莎朗保证过 我会陪着她一起处理这事儿 Uh, and I promised Sharon I'd be there.
情理之中 Of course.
我只是想听听你对我的真实评价 I was just hoping for your honest opinion.
乐队乐手给我的评分有点虚高 My player rating sheets were off the charts.
那些分数可是保密的 Those are confidential, Eliot.
乐队的首席双簧管是我的狂热粉丝 Well, the principal oboist is a big fan.
我回来的时候 On the way back,
听了你跟以色列爱乐乐团合作的版本 I was listening to yours with the Israeli Phil,
你在最后一个乐章指挥弦乐部 and I was struck by what you managed to pull
发出的声音太美妙了 我完完全全被震撼到了 from the strings in the last movement.
你到底是怎么做的？ I mean, how did you get them there?
是那儿的音乐厅效果特别好？ Was it the hall?
还是乐手的水平特别高？ Was it the players?
乐手其实不算很合作 The players weren't very obliging.
第一次排练后 首席小提琴 The principal violinist came up to me
跑来找我 after the first rehearsal
-问我是不是犹太裔 -什么？ -and asked if I was a Jew. -What?
他好像觉得非犹太裔指挥演奏 It seemed to him unusual, if not suspicious, that a non-Jew
犹太作曲家作品不正常到可疑的程度 would be interested in conducting Jewish music.
我感觉我跟马克斯·布鲁赫似的 Felt like Max Bruch.
我刚好是个犹太佬 我们卡普兰基金会 Well, big Jew that I am, the Kaplan Fund has, uh,
还为了一个克里兹莫音乐项目 committed a sizable amount to them
-给他们捐了一大笔钱 -哦 -for a klezmer commission. -Mm-hmm.
说不定他们会请我当客座指挥呢 Uh, maybe they'll invite me to guest conduct.
他们能请到你是撞了大运了 Oh, well, they'd be lucky to have you.
别奉承啦 Oh, please.
我知道自己的斤两 I know my place.
钱不总是万能的 Money can't always buy you everything.
你才不信这话呢 You don't really believe that.
我跟你说 我以前贿赂过弗朗西斯卡 I'll have you know I tried to bribe Francesca
想让她给我看一下你在谱上写的批注 to let me look at your notation.
她让我碰了一鼻子灰 She sent me packing.
好姑娘 Good girl.
那边那个坐在守护精灵像边的先生 That gentleman sitting over there with the gnome
一直盯着咱们这边看 is urgently focused on our table.
一开始 我还以为他在看我 At first, I thought he was looking at me,
但我现在觉得他应该是看上你了 but I think he's got his eye on you.
求你了 别理他 Please try and ignore him.
如果你想要点空间 我可以马上 I can excuse myself and go wash my hands
假装去上厕所 if you'd like to be alone.
那我一辈子都不会原谅你 And I would never forgive you.
我可不想跟我这种人 The last thing I need is to be buttonholed in here
困在这儿谈感情 by someone exactly like me.
你明天什么时候走？ Uh, what time are you leaving tomorrow?
弗朗西斯卡正在查航班 Francesca's looking into flights.
让她别查了 Well, call her off.
你想什么时候走都行 Leave when you like.
不用麻烦啦 You don't have to do that.
我其实是抱着一点私心的 My motives are not entirely altruistic.
就一眼 让我看一眼你乐谱上的批注呗 Just one peek. One peek at your performing score.
好啊 Fine.
-我5:15走可以吗？-可以 -Would 5:15 be okay? -Sure.
好吧 我还得赶快赶回来 Okay, I mean, I do... I have to get turned around fast.
要赶紧填补空缺 We're filling a vacant position.
选塞巴斯蒂安吧 Oh, please tell me it's Sebastian.
好吧 平心而论 艾略特 Now, be fair, Eliot.
塞巴斯蒂安的水平确实不错 Sebastian has decent technique.
指挥技巧一流 He has baton.
一个月前 我经过文化村博物馆 A month ago, I dropped into Bunkamura
里面有架机器慢悠悠地演奏《肖邦第一号叙事曲》 to watch the Turing machine trot out Chopin One.
塞巴斯蒂安真的是变速大师 Ol' Sebastian really is Mr. Tempo Rubato.
说他是呆板机械大师还差不多 Robot-o is more like it.
你干嘛不愿意用他？ Why do you keep him on?
你明知道他是安德里斯的人 Oh, he's Andris's man, you know that.
没错 你接过安德里斯职位的时候 被迫接受了他之前的人员安排 Exactly. You inherited that decision.
反正你已经用了七年假装尊重他的决定了 已经够久了 Seven years is a long time to pretend you respect it.
他们那边的雇佣合同分得很细 不好操作 They have different labor contracts over there.
而且他这个人也很奇怪 He's a... he's a strange guy.
谁怪？安德里斯？ Who? Andris?
不是 是塞巴斯蒂安 No, Sebastian.
他有怪癖 He has, uh, fetishes.
怪癖？哪方面的？ Fetishes? Like what?
特别喜欢卡尔姆斯缩印乐谱集 Nostalgia for prewar Kalmus miniature scores,
还迷恋冯·卡拉扬旧照里 dead-stock pencils he's seen
拿的那种铅笔 von Karajan hold in photographs.
就是这种怪癖 You know, that sort of thing.
真可悲 That's just sad.
是啊 但你说的也有道理 Yeah, but you're not wrong.
我总有一天要给他调职的 I am gonna have to rotate him at some point.
为谁调？ For who?
爱让我领悟的道理 What Love Teaches Me.
就是你在马勒三弦乐部分的批注 是什么意思 That string notation.
马勒自己就写得很清楚了啊 Mahler gives it to you himself.
慵懒、平和、深情
-Come on. -Trust me.
这个东西要自己领悟 You do not want to go to school
不能拾人牙慧 on someone else's red and blue pencil.
最起码别拾我的 Least of all, mine.
我愿意啊 Oh, but I do.
行吧 别缠我了好吧？ All right. Will you quit pestering me?
好啊 Yes.
自由运弓 Free bowing.
视觉效果上可能不太好 It's not pretty for an audience to look at,
但如果你能想办法让乐手们 but if you can manage to keep your players
演出前别嗑药⋯ out of the weeds...
⋯那个声音效果简直摧枯拉朽 ... the sound's ferocious.
啊 Oh.
完全按照原谱来就没灵气了 艾略特 There's no glory for a robot, Eliot.
想办法创新一下 Do your own thing.
嗯 Hmm.
好了 All right, um...
你先⋯停一下 Let's... stop here.
-谢谢 马克斯 挺不错的 -谢谢您 -Thank you, Max. Very good. -Thanks.
但我就想问一下… Um, just for my own edification...
你为什么来上茱莉亚？ why did you come to Juilliard?
因为这是全美最好的音乐学院？ Uh, it's the best music conservatory in the country?
柯蒂斯音乐学院和伊斯曼音乐学院的学生对此估计会有不同意见 People from Curtis, Eastman, and others may beg to differ.
茱莉亚名头比较大 对吧？ I mean, Juilliard's a brand, right?
你是冲着这个名气来的吗？ So, did you come to study with a brand?
-不是的 -不是啊 好吧 所以是你在求学路上 -No. -No, right. So there's a teacher
遇到过某个老师或是某个本校的毕业生 or graduate somewhere down the line who, you know,
给你灌输了一些关于茱莉亚的想象 conjured something in your imagination.
-那人是你的榜样和目标 -嗯 -Someone you aspire to be yourself. -Mm-hmm.
这个人是谁呢？ So, who was that?
张永主 Sarah Chang.
原来你是小提琴手啊？ Hmm. So you're a violinist?
-对 -好的 -Yeah. -All right, okay.
那我就明白 Well, I can see why
你为什么要这样指挥这个作品了 you would choose to conduct a piece like this.
你可能是怀念起了 Must be a familiar pleasure in presiding over
以前调弦的美好时光 a bed of strings that behave as if they're tuning.
这样啊⋯ Now...
这是一个现代派作品 this piece is very au courant.
你看这儿 作曲家写了 I mean, here, the composer tells us
要用“反复的三重击鼓” to begin with "back-and-forth tremolo strokes
“刷弦和缓慢的轻擦钹”开场 with wire brush and slowly sliding crotales over skin."
怎么听着像雷尼·拉德奇普做鹿肉的方法 Sounds like René Redzepi's recipe for reindeer.
演奏新曲子很好玩 是吧？ It's exciting to play new music, isn't it?
-是的 -是啊 -Yeah. -Yeah.
很好 好的请回去坐吧 Great. All right, please, join the other fellows.
我知道大家都在跟 Now, I know you're all conducting students
沃尔夫先生学指挥 但有务少人 of, uh, Mr. Wolfe's, but how many of you
也在学作曲？ are also studying composition?
好的 你叫什么名字？ Right, what's your name?
奥利芙·科尔 Olive Kerr.
好的 奥利芙 All right, Olive. Uh...
你对我们刚才听到的音乐作何评价？ What do you make of what we've just been listening to?
非常棒 It's pretty awesome.
我觉得其中充满了无调性音乐的张力 I mean, there's incredible atonal tension.
我也觉得它很有张力 I agree about the tension part.
大家当然可以沉思或是沉迷于 Now, you can intellectually contemplate, or masturbate,
所谓的无调性旋律 about the felicity of the so-called "atonal,"
但关键要问一下自己：你们到底在指挥什么？ but the important question here is: What are you conducting?
要达到怎样的效果？ What is the effect?
它给我带来了怎样的共鸣？ What is it actually doing to me?
无论是结构如大教堂一般的华美精致的旋律 Good music can be as ornate as a cathedral
还是像窝棚一样的简朴粗陋的作品 or bare as a potting shed
只要它能回答以上那两个问题 那就算好的音乐作品 so long as it allows you to answer both those questions.
马克斯 Max.
你怎么看？ Come on, what do you think?
安娜·索尔沃兹多提尔来给我们上过大师课 When... Anna Thorvaldsdóttir gave her master class,
课上她说 她的灵感经常来源于 she said she was often influenced by the form
她家乡自然景观和地貌的形态与结构 and structure of landscapes and nature she grew up within.
我觉得她目前应该 But I'm not sure she was interested per se
不会用语言描述她的作品中的旋律 in, uh, describing those actual sounds.
你这是用一种观点反驳另一种观点 Very Punkt Kontra Punkt.
确实 Yes.
简而言之 她的作曲目的十分模糊 The intent of her composition is vague, to say the least.
那么 既然她的作曲目的如此模糊 你作为指挥 So, if her intent is vague, how do you, as a conductor,
要怎样理解并指导乐团演绎她的作品呢？ have a point of view about anything?
说句实话 Now, to be fair, I mean,
有时候指挥确实会遇到这种别无选择的局面 there are times when you will simply have no choice.
你没别的办法 只能站在乐团面前 And you will be made to stand in front of an orchestra
然后假装这种作品里有可循的逻辑和结构 and pretend that there are these invisible structures.
但我衷心希望 But my prayer for you
你以后不要遇到 is that you will be spared the embarrassment
要指挥《4分33秒》却根本不知道 of standing on the podium with a 4'33",
该从何下手的尴尬局面 trying to sell a car without an engine.
因为朋友们 Because now, my friends,
你们现在应该先学习指挥 now is the time to conduct music
你们力所能逮的作品 that actually requires something of you.
就是那种大家耳熟能详 You know, music that everybody knows
但会由不同的艺术家演绎出不同风格的作品 but will hear differently when you interpret it for them.
比如说 马克斯 你要不要先从《垂怜经》开始？ For instance, Max, why not a Kyrie?
或者是巴赫的《B小调弥撒》之类的音乐 You know, like, uh, something like Bach's Mass in B minor.
我不是很喜欢巴赫 I'm not really into Bach.
-你不喜欢巴赫？-对 -You're not into Bach? -Mm-hmm.
哎呀 马克斯 Oh, Max.
你有没有读过阿尔贝特·施韦泽的书？ Have you read the Schweitzer book?
没有 No.
应该读一下的 Well, you should.
他的作品很有意义 It's an important text.
起码安东尼娅·布里克觉得很重要 Now, Antonia Brico thought so.
他的书促使她离家远航去非洲 So much so that she shipped herself to Equatorial Africa
坐皮划艇顺刚果河而下 去找施韦泽 and canoed up the Congo River to track Schweitzer down
向他请教巴赫的音乐 and ask him to teach her what he knew about Bach.
我应该有张她的照片 I mean, somewhere, I've got a picture of her
照片里她带着那种木髓遮阳帽 in a, in a pith helmet.
就是 你有没有⋯ I mean, have you...
你有没有演奏过 或者指挥过巴赫的作品？ have you ever played or-or conducted Bach?
说实话 我是个有黑人、原住民和其他有色人种血统的泛性别者 Honestly, as a BIPOC, pangender person,
我无法接受 I would say Bach's misogynistic life
巴赫的厌女世界观 makes it kind of impossible for me
也无法认真看待他的作品 to take his music seriously.
不是吧？ Come on.
你到底⋯你在说什么啊？ What do... what do... what do you mean by that?
他不是生了20个小孩嘛？ Well, didn't he sire, like, 20 kids?
对 史料记载是这样的 Yes, that's documented.
同时他也创作了大量的音乐作品 Along with a considerable amount of music.
但抱歉 我不是…我不太理解 But I'm sorry, I'm... I'm unclear
他的生殖能力 as to what his prodigious skills in the marital bed
跟B小调有什么关系 have to do with B minor.
行吧 Sure.
随便了 这是你的选择 All right, whatever. That's-that's your choice.
毕竟 “灵魂会选择自己的归处” I mean, after all, "a soul selects her own society."
但是请记住 这种选择的另一面 But remember, the flip side of that selection
就是关上了心灵的大门 closes the valves of one's attention.
不过 选择接受 Now, of course, siloing what is acceptable
或不接受演出某些内容 是目前许多 or not acceptable is a basic construct of many,
也许是大多数交响乐团的基本操作 if not most, symphony orchestras today,
他们觉得他们有权 who see it as their imperial right
替下里巴人们挑选曲目 to curate for the cretins.
虽然这种态度很烦人 So, slippery as it is,
但马克斯对某些作品的成见 还是提供了一点积极的看法 there is some merit in examining Max's allergy.
那就是 由一群奥匈帝国的 Can classical music written by a bunch of straight,
白人直男基督教徒写出的音乐 能否为我们 Austro-German, churchgoing white guys exalt us,
为个体和更广大的人群带来喜悦与欢乐？ individually as-as well as collectively,
而谁又有资格来评定这个标准？ and who, may I ask, gets to decide that?
你对贝多芬怎么看？ You know, what about Beethoven?
喜欢贝多芬吗？ You into him?
因为我作为一个中产阶级女同性恋 Because for me, as a U-Haul lesbian,
我个人⋯不是很喜欢他的作品 I'm... I'm not too sure about old Ludwig.
但后来 我深入理解了他的音乐 But then, I face him.
便看到了他展现出的 And I find myself nose-to-nose
庞然与夺目的气势 with his magnitude and inevitability.
来嘛 马克斯 就当逗我玩儿 Come on, Max. Indulge me.
你来仔细地听一听巴赫嘛 Let's allow Bach a similar gaze.
过来坐 Sit.
这些音符听起来太阳春自雪了 对吧？ Now, this is all filigree, right?
钢琴刚入门的学生都能弹这个 I mean, it could be a first-year piano student.
但施罗德是这样弹给露西的 ♪ Or Schroeder playing for Lucy. ♪
格伦·古尔德则是这样弹的 Or Glenn Gould, for that matter.
等到你理解了这段旋律⋯ Now, it's not until it changes...
听出了作曲家的意图 ... when you get inside it,
你就可以用另一种风格演绎它了 that you hear what it really is.
这句是个问题 It's a question.
而这是答案 And an answer.
这个答案又引出了另一个问题 Which begs another question.
巴赫有种谦恭的气质 There's a humility in Bach.
他从来不假装自己无所不知 无所不能 He's not pretending he's certain about anything.
因为他明白 听众的心里 'Cause he knows that it's always the question
永远藏着问题 that involves the listener.
是问题 而不是答案 对吧？ It's never the answer, right?
好的 现在我要问你： Now, the big question for you is:
你有什么想法 马克斯？ What do you think, Max?
你弹得很好 You play really well.
但现在 我对顺性别白男作曲家不感兴趣 But nowadays, white, male, cis composers, just not my thing.
先别急着搞对立嘛 Don't be so eager to be offended.
对自己异类身份的迷恋 The narcissism of small differences
会让你变成一个无聊又循规蹈矩的人 leads to the most boring conformity.
我觉得埃德加·瓦雷兹还行 I guess Edgard Varèse is okay.
我喜欢他的《奥秘》 I mean, I like "Arcana," anyway.
那你也应该知道 瓦雷兹 Oh, well, then you must be aware that Varèse
很著名的一句话就是说 once famously stated that jazz
爵士乐是“被犹太佬营销出名头的黑鬼音乐” was "a Negro product exploited by the Jews."
但也没拦着杰瑞·哥德史密斯 Didn't stop Jerry Goldsmith from ripping him off
在《人猿星球》的配乐里大抄特抄瓦雷兹啊 for his Planet of the Apes score.
哥德史密斯这种才是真正的反击 你说是不是？ It's kind of a perfect insult, don't you think?
但问题在于 如果你 But you see, the problem with enrolling yourself
让自己的认知和审美受限于区分得这么精密的政治立场 as an ultrasonic epistemic dissident
如果巴赫的才气都无法打破他的性别 is that if Bach's talent can be reduced to his gender,
生育观、信仰和性取向制造出的藩篱 birth country, religion, sexuality, and so on,
那你的才能肯定会被某一类人否定 then so can yours.
马克斯 等以后你真正接触了社会 Now, someday, Max, when you go out into the world
受邀指挥某个大型或小型乐团的时候 and you guest conduct for a major or minor orchestra,
你就会发现 那些乐手们的能力和积累 you may notice that the players have more than light bulbs
远超你的想象 and music on their stands.
他们还会私下分发评分表 They will also have been handed rating sheets,
那么你希望 专门给你打分 the purpose of which is to rate you.
那么 你希望 Now, what kind of criteria
他们用怎样的标准来评价你呢？ would you hope that they would use to do this?
是根据你的读谱能力 指挥技巧还是别的东西？ Your score reading and stick technique, or something else?
好了 所有同学 现在借用一下马克思的标准 All right, everyone, using Max's criteria,
来评估一下马克斯喜欢的作品 let's consider Max's thing.
也就是 安娜·索尔沃兹多提尔的音乐 In this case, Anna Thorvaldsdóttir.
那么 首先她有两个显著且无可辦驳的特点 Now, can we agree on two pieces of observation?
一 她是冰岛人 One, that Anna was born in Iceland.
二 他是个 怎么说呢 And two, that she is, in a, I don't know,
说话风格虚无缥缈 不接地气 但长得非常漂亮的年轻女人 Waldorf teacher kinda way, a superhot young woman.
好的 那么请大家看向 同意这点的 请举手 Show of hands.
好的 那么请大家看向 All right, now let's turn our gaze
钢琴凳上的那个人 back to the piano bench up there
看看这两个人之间 and see if we can square how any of those things
究竟有没有问题 possibly relate to the person we see seated before us.
你去哪儿？ Oh, where are you going?
你是个贱人 You're a fucking bitch.
而你过于死板了 And you are a robot.
很可惜 你的灵魂似乎完全是由 I mean, unfortunately, the architect of your soul
社交网络上的词条搭建起来的 appears to be social media.
想做指挥 就要服务于作曲家 You want to dance the mask, you must service the composer.
要升华自我认知、 You gotta sublimate yourself,
自我价值 以及自己的身份 your ego, and, yes, your identity.
你必须在直面大众和上帝时 You must, in fact, stand in front of the public and God
抹消掉自己的存在 and obliterate yourself.
算了 All right.
在封控期间 During the lockdown,
你达成了一个我眼中非常了不起的成就 you did something I thought remarkable.
你慷慨地在线上免费分享你的音乐 You made music for free.
所有人都能免费在线观看 Anyone at all could stream Berlin performances
柏林爱乐乐团的演出 without ever paying a dime.
这其实是⋯ Well, that-that was a...
所有乐手一致决定的 it's a democratically made decision by the players.
虽然我想说这是我的主意 And though I-I wish I could claim the idea was mine,
但它其实是由莎朗·古德诺提出来的 it really did spring from the heart of Sharon Goodnow.
她是你的伴侣 Sharon is your partner.
你们一起抚养一个孩子 You have a child together,
她同时也是柏林爱乐的首席小提琴手 and she's also the concertmaster for Berlin.
-她的身份有没有⋯ -对是的 -Does that ever... -Yes, that's right.
让你们的关系复杂化？ ... complicate things for you?
你们的家庭有没有⋯ Your work getting into your home or the other way ar...?
杰克说 这次外套会挡住 Jake said he was certain
你的屁股 你一定会喜欢这种设计 you'd be happy with the drape of the seat.
会的⋯ I will be...
只要我下个月之间成功减去多余脂肪就行 ... if I can keep the fat off until next month.
你就根本没胖 You never gain weight.
你的妈妈给我发了信息 Your... your mother texted me.
她知道你很忙 但还是想让你抽空跟她见一面 She knows you're busy but is hoping to drop by.
等下次来纽约再说 Next trip.
你晚饭想吃什么？ What are you thinking for dinner?
不吃了 Uh, no.
我待在房间里 好好练练琴就行 No, I'm-I'm gonna stay in and put this piano to good use.
我还不是很确定大提琴部分的E调本音 I'm suspicious of the E natural in the cello line.
现在这个版本是不是听着像是过度甜美的查尔斯·艾夫斯作品？ Doesn't it sound like warmed-over Charles Ives to you?
没有啊 一点都没有 Not-not at all.
别担心 我这就给休斯顿打电话 But don't worry, I'll call Houston.
他们很快就能改过来 They'll be flexible.
你今晚没有跟家乡的朋友 You must have some New Haven friends
一起约着吃个饭 见见面什么的？ you want to see tonight?
没有 No. Not really.
需不需要我一会儿再过来看你有没有别的要求？ Should I stop by later for notes?
不用啦 没必要 No, that won't be necessary.
好的 Okay.
对了 差点忘了不过⋯ Oh, I, I-I almost forgot, but...
有人把这个留在前台了 说是送给你的 this was left for you at the front desk.
谁送的？ By who?
前台没说 They didn't say.
上面也没附留言卡什么的？ Wh-What, no card?
没有 No.
好吧 放那儿就行 Okay, just, just leave it over there.
谢谢 Thanks.
晚安 Good night.
晚安 Night.
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该栏目由⋯ All Things Considered is brought to you
公共广播公司为您播报⋯ by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting...
公共广播公司 Public Broadcasting.
我吃耳朵 ... and I Eat Ears,
-从2008年起 专供具有洞察力的高端听众 -2008 -feeding the discerning listener since 2008. -2008.
-我吃耳朵 -我吃耳朵 -I Eat Ears, -I Eat Ears,
-你也应当试试 -你也应当试试 -and you should, too. -and you should, too.
接下来 继续NPR新闻 And now, more from NPR.
接下来的几周里 Over the next few weeks,
全美桂冠诗人奖的四个决赛人选 we'll be hearing poems from four finalists
将陆续出炉 for the National Youth Poet Laureate Award.
你什么时候知道的？ When were you informed of this?
今天早上 Just this morning.
卡普兰先生很抱歉 Mr. Kaplan was very apologetic.
我想办法买到了 I was able to get us on
早上7点的机票 不过要从慕尼黑转机 the 7:00 a.m. you like, through Munich.
转机时间很短 The connection's short,
但已经安排好了特殊服务 but special services are standing by.
跟DG的合同谈得怎么样了？ Where are things with DG?
请告诉我他们终于开窍了 Please tell me they've finally woken up to see the wisdom
愿意发行这套CD的密纹黑胶版了？ of honest-to-God LPs for this release?
目前还没有进展 No movement there yet.
你看没看我写的邮件？ Have you looked at the email I drafted for you?
-昨晚就发出去了 -嗯好 -Sent it last night. -Mm-hmm.
-有回复立刻通知我 -好的 -Well, just forward me their response. -Mm-hmm.
你觉得《纽约客》的那场访谈效果怎么样？ What's your take on The New Yorker talk?
我觉得挺好的 It went well, I thought.
你说话遮遮掩掩的 Oh. You're hedging.
我倒话多得要命 I was garrulous.
没有 No.
不是的 你很了不起 No, not at all. You, you were fabulous.
弗朗西斯卡 Francesca.
如果你真的喜欢指挥 If you have any real interest in conducting,
就一定要学会有话直说 you need to be able to speak your mind.
好吧 我觉得你可能⋯ Okay. Perhaps you...
你可以少说一点⋯ You could've made less of the relationship with...
-我和伦尼的关系？-不是的 -Lenny? -No.
我想说的是马勒和爱尔玛的关系 I-I was thinking about Mahler and Alma's.
-这样啊 -你暗示她背叛了他 -Oh. Huh. -You implied that she betrayed him.
我觉得 我不是很同意这个观点 I'm not, I'm not sure I agree with that.
是嘛？ Oh, really?
爱尔玛也是个作曲家呢 Alma was a composer, too,
但他让她放弃创作 but he insisted she stop writing music.
他说家里只能有⋯ He said there was only room for...
-一个混蛋？-对的 只能容下一个混蛋 -One asshole in the house? -One asshole in the house. Yes.
但她也同意了呀 And she agreed to those rules.
她自己决定的没人逼她 No one made that decision for her.
#同意即许可 #RulesOfTheGame.
既然女人有权上断头台
好吧 Okay.
晚上睡得怎么样？ How was your evening?
挺好的 Yeah, was uneventful.
莎朗的药吃完没？ Are there any of Sharon's pills left?
没有 但科罗温医生送来了这个 No, but Dr. Korovin called these in.
谢谢 Ah, thanks.
克里斯塔又给我寄了一封奇怪的邮件 I received another weird email from Krista.
-哦 -我该怎么回复？ -Mm-hmm. -How should I reply?
别回复 Don't.
这封的语气感觉很绝望 Well, this one felt especially desperate.
你是不是背着我跟公共公司 Do you have some kind of profit-sharing deal
签了什么利润分成协议了？ with the utility company that I am unaware of?
我又开始心悸了 The flutter's back.
心跳一直在加速 It's... It's racing.
我还找不到我的美多心安 I can't find my Metoprolol anywhere.
我操 Oh, fuck.
我在抽屉里面找见了一片掉出来的药 Uh, I found this lying loose in the drawer.
你吃的是不是这种？ Is this the right one?
是 Yeah.
谢谢 Thank you.
你新买了个包？ Is that a new bag?
是艾略特送的 Oh, it's just a gift from Eliot.
你喜欢？ You want it?
不是 No.
跟你很搭 Suits you.
咱们来把心跳降到一分钟60下吧 Let's slow this down to 60 beats a minute.
实际上这应该是一分钟64下 Actually, it's 64 beats.
我昨天晚上打你的手机 但没人接 Tried calling you on your mobile last night.
哦 Hmm.
还打了你房间的电话 And again at the hotel.
我应该是睡死了 Must've been asleep.
你从来睡不死 You never sleep that deeply.
平心静气 别急 No, no, don't be a scold.
我感到一种情感 ♪ Feelin' a feelin' ♪
因为有种东西⋯ ♪ For somethin' there ain't too much of... ♪
我很担心佩特拉 I'm worried about Petra.
她藏着很多心事 She's starting to disappear into herself.
具体有哪些表现？ Be specific.
她腿上老是青一块紫一块的 She keeps coming home with bruises on her shins.
我问她是怎么弄的 她就不吭气儿了 And then when I ask her about it, she gets quiet.
我希望那是踢球时的正常磕碰 I mean, I hope it's just playground football
而不是种族歧视引发的霸凌 and not some Biodeutsche thing.
我们谈过这个的 Hmm, we talked about this.
可能只需要想办法 But maybe we just need to put more effort
给她找个朋友 into finding her a friend.
她去年过得很难 Last year was really hard
跟我们两个老太太一起封在家里出不去 to be locked up alone with two old ladies like us.
她这个年纪可以学钢琴了 She's old enough to learn piano.
我来教她 I'll teach her.
好啊 Yeah.
可能对他有好处 That might be good.
你的心跳怎么样了？ How's your heart?
好多了 Better now.
咚 咚 是谁啊？ Knock, knock. Who's there?
是伦尼吗？ Lenny?
还是瓦尔特？ Walter?
哦 原来是你啊 MTT Oh, it's you, MTT.
你为什么老要这么处理这段旋律啊？ Why do you insist on holding things up like that?
你应该表现喜悦 欢畅的气氛 Your business here is rejoicing,
而不是像个色情演员一样装模作样地鬼吼 not screaming like a fucking porn star.
迈克尔·蒂尔森·托马斯⋯ Michael Tilson Thomas...
早啊 佩特拉 Hello, Petra.
你转来转去是有什么事儿吗？ Why are you lurking? Hmm?
跟我说说 我会帮你的 Tell me and I'll help.
-莎朗？-嗯？ - Sharon? - Hmm?
今天我送佩特拉上学吧 Uh, I'm taking Petra to school.
好啊 Oh, okay.
-走吧 -再见 -Come on. -Tschüss.
谁来扶棺？ Who'll bear the pall?
“我们来”鹪鹩和 "We," said the wren,
-“公鸡与母鸡说”-母鸡 -"both the cock and the hen." -The hen.
"我来⋯” "I'll..."
“我们来扶棺” "We'll bear the pall."
谁来唱赞美诗？ And who'll sing a psalm?
“我来” 画眉说 当她葬入灌木丛 "I," said the thrush as she sat on a bush.
“我来唱赞美诗” "I'll sing a song."
“谁来敲丧钟？” "Who'll toll the bell?"
“我来” 公牛说 "I," said the bull,
“因为我能拉绳” "because I can pull.
“所以我来鸣钟” I'll toll the bell."
空中的群鸟 All the birds of the air
都开始叹息 啜泣 fell a-sighing and a-sobbing
当它们听到为可怜的公鸡罗宾 when they heard the bell toll
鸣响的丧钟！ for poor Cock Robin!
没事的 It's gonna be okay.
好了 打你的是哪一个？ All right. Okay, which one is she?
穿红衣服的那个 The red one.
-再见 -去吧 -Bye. -Go on.
你好 约翰娜 Hallo, Johanna.
我是佩特拉的父亲
她跟我说了很多你的事
我知道你是怎么欺负她的
如果你再敢碰她 你知道我会怎么办吗？
我就亲自来收拾你
如果你去找大人告状⋯
也没人会相信你
因为我跟他们是一伙的 都是大人
但我保证
我一定会亲自收拾你
你给我记住了 约翰娜
上帝正看着咱俩呢
你好呀 Hello. Hi.
他们都到音乐厅了？ They're all in the chamber hall?
是的 Yes.
糟糕 No.
早上好 Good morning.
抱歉 大师 Oh, I'm sorry, Maestro.
我们不确定你会来 We weren't sure you were coming.
别人告诉我们日程安排上可能有冲突 We were told there might be, um, a scheduling conflict.
你想让我做笔记吗？ - Would you like me to take notes? -
不 谢谢你 塞巴斯蒂安 No, thank you, Sebastian.
没那个必要 That won't be necessary.
大家都有评分表吗？ Do we all have our rating sheets?
-我们把范围缩小到了三个 -嗯嗯 -We narrowed it down to three. -Mm-hmm.
所以 如果没有其他事 So, unless anyone has other business to discuss,
我们就请出第一位吧 let's bring in number one.
古森斯状态稳定 发出A音 Goossens stands, sounds his A.
当然 菜昂的颤音非常宽 And of course, uh, Léon was rather famous
-这是人尽皆知的 嗯？ -嗯 -for his, um, rather wide vibrato, huh? -Hmm.
比彻姆抬起头说“先生们 你们选吧” Beecham looks up and says, "Gentlemen, take your pick."
写得怎么样了？ How's the writing going?
我从来不知道怎样回答这个问题 Ah, I never know how to answer that question.
不知道 No.
让人听起来像是一种生理行为 Makes it sound like a physical act.
就像在问拉屎拉得怎么样了？ Like, how's the shitting going?
好吧 Okay.
那你考虑得怎么样了？ How's the thinking going?
不怎么好 Yeah, not so well.
我一直在听一些东西 而且很兴奋 I keep hearing something and getting excited
结果却发现自己在东拼西凑 only to catch myself in pastiche.
嗯 Hmm.
很多都是拼凑的 Uh, it's all pastiche.
我们都使用相同的音乐规则 We all have the same musical grammar.
看看贝多芬第五交响曲就知道了 Uh, just look at Beethoven Five.
他第三乐章的主题和莫扎特第四十交响乐 The third movement's theme has the same sequence of intervals
最后一个乐章的开头主题有着相同的音程序列 as the opening theme of the final movement of Mozart Forty.
这可能是个巧合 Mm, th-that could've been a coincidence.
不 这种情况下不是 No. Not in this case.
如果你看一下他用的素描本 If you examine the sketchbooks he used,
就会看到莫扎特最后一曲的29个小节 29 bars of Mozart's finale appear.
由贝多芬复制了出来 Copied out by Beethoven.
天哪 我觉得这很令人沮丧 Oh, my God. I find that extremely depressing.
我读完了你的手稿 I finished reading your manuscript.
非常好 莉迪亚 It's very good, Lydia.
是部千古名篇 One for the ages.
而且我敢说 在我的书 And, I dare say, will be available
被人遗忘后它依然会流传后世 long after my book has been forgotten.
是的 你说得对 Oh, yes, you're right.
整个第一版的印刷品都可以买得到 The entire first printing will always be available.
你太谦虚了 和往常一样 Too modest, as usual.
谢谢你 安德里斯 Thank you, Andris.
我会珍惜的 I'll cherish this.
你可以用它 You may use it.
封面简介 A-a blurb for the covers.
谢谢 Oh, thank you.
我会把它寄给出版商的 I'll send it to the publisher.
希望还有时间 Hopefully, there's still time.
我很自豪地称你为我的学生 I'm proud to call you my pupil,
尽管我真的 uh, even though there was really
没什么可以教你的 nothing I could teach you.
现在不是了 Now, that's not true.
如果不是因为你 我永远不会得到这个职位 I'd never have the position here were it not for you.
那么你就会在伦敦 纽约 Then you'd be in London, New York.
它们不是柏林 They're not Berlin.
此外 如果我们要离开的话 Besides, I'm not sure what Sharon would do,
我不确定莎朗会做什么 were we ever to leave.
她和她的家人如此亲密 She's so close with her family.
是的 古德诺姐妹 Ah, yeah, the Goodnow sisters.
我记得她姐姐在掌控德国留声机公司的时候 I remember the elder one being an absolute ball-breaker
就是个难缠的女人 while she still held sway at DG.
-海克是个有很多想法的女人 -哦 -Heike is a woman of many opinions. -Oh.
And that voice.
我是说信噪比 I mean, the signal-to-noise ratio,
让人无法忍受 it's unbearable.
我只好去我以前在城里住的地方 I've had to bolt-hole at my old place in town
完成写作 to get any writing done.
叔本华用一个人对噪音的敏感度 Schopenhauer measured a man's intelligence
来衡量他的智力 against his sensitivity to noise.
他曾经把一个女人从楼梯上扔下来 Didn't he once also throw a woman down a flight of stairs
后来这个女人起诉了他 是吗？ who later sued him?
是的 Yes.
不过目前还不清楚 Although, it's unclear
他的这种个人缺点 this private and personal failing
与他的工作有什么关系 is at all relevant to his work.
你来晚了 You're late.
把你的手杖给我 Here, give me your stick.
-谢谢 -我拿到了 -Thank you. -I've got it.
好的 呃… Okay. Uh...
很好 Gut, gut.
基督教⋯ ... Christian...
好吗？ Okay?
但这也是… Uh, but it's also...
就像我们是从一个 It's like we're hearing it
非常远的地方听到的一样 from a very, very great distance.
所以它是… So it's...
呃⋯ Ju... Uh...
抱歉 哈拉尔德？ Sorry. Ist Harald da?
哈拉尔德？能不能 Harald? I was just wondering if you might, um,
尽快为我们准备好？ uh, quickly rig something up for us?
很好 很好 Gut, gut, gut.
哈拉尔德？ Harald?
请使用同样的后台装置 Uh, we'll want the same backstage setup
来进行现场录音 for the live recording.
1 2 1 One, two, one.
好吗？看起来不错 但是… Okay? Looks great, but...
我们要听到声音 ... we need to hear it.
好吗？这不是⋯ Okay? It's not...
嘿 Hey.
好吗？ Ja?
好吗？ Okay?
不 No.
叭！ Bah!
这太慢了 It's-it's much too slow.
嗯嗯 Mm-hmm.
好的 Okay.
好吧 全体齐奏 Okay, tutti.
呃⋯ Uh...
这里情况怎么样？ How are things feeling up here?
很好 Fine, yeah.
是的 事实上很好 但是 Yeah, actually great, but, uh,
很遗憾我们没有把这个节目直接录到磁盘上 it's a shame we don't record this one direct-to-disk.
哦 这更像是犯罪 Oh. It's criminal, is more like it.
能把MP3文件发我吗？ Will you shoot me the MP3s?
是的 当然 但你不想要WAV文件吗？ Yeah, sure, but don't you want WAV files?
不 想想人们会传播什么格式的文件 No, just think what people will actually be streaming.
那视频呢？ Uh, what about video?
是的 用舞台左边的一台摄像机 Yes, yes. Uh, stage left A camera.
-好的 -好的谢谢 伙计们 -Okay. -All right. Thanks, guys.
好的 再见 不客气 Okay. Uh, bye. You're quite welcome.
-在那里？-是的 - There? - Yeah.
你想让我们在那里加强音调？ You want us to come, to come in stronger there?
-好的 -是的 - Okay, then yeah. - Yeah.
这儿 主要的力度用的是强音 Here, 'cause the reigning dynamic is forte,
这可不好 which is not good.
-嗯 -是吗？ - Hmm. - Yeah?
是的 只有一件小事 大师 Yeah. Um, just one small thing, Maestro.
在回旋曲中 During the scherzo, um,
单簧管的独奏还是有点太响了 th-th-the clarinet solo's still a bit too loud.
它应该是 It should really be an accompanying figure
-为第一小提琴伴奏的 -嗯 - to the first violins. - Hmm.
但除此之外 我想说我们的状态非常好 But apart from that, I'd say we're in very good shape.
谢谢 塞巴斯蒂安 Thank you, Sebastian.
谢谢 Thank you.
评估准确吗？ Accurate assessment?
我不这么认为 I don't think so.
单簧管被标记为钢琴 而我们这里标为轻音 The clarinet is marked piano, and we are marked pianissimo.
塞巴斯蒂安喜欢坐在正厅前座上 Sebastian likes to sit in the stalls,
但在圈子里保持平衡是没问题的 but there's no problem with the balance in the circle.
嗯哼 Mm-hmm.
有件更有趣的事 Something a bit more playful.
嗯 Mm-hmm.
这是坦尼娅和我给古斯塔沃拍的 Oh, and here's something Tanya and I did with Gustavo.
我认为形象非常鲜明 I think it's very powerful.
是的 拍得真的很不错 卡尔 Yes, it's-it's really wonderful work, uh, Karl.
我在想我们是否可以尝试一些 I'm just wondering if we might try something
考虑的不太多的东西 a little less, uh, considered.
像这样简单的东西？ Something simple like this?
嗯？ Hmm?
我不知道你想怎么让照片更亮 I'm not sure how you would want to light it.
让哈拉尔德把照明灯光亮度调到一半 Have Harald dim the houselights to half.
把照明灯光亮度调到一半 Houselights down half, please.
我是说我们可以让它发挥作用 I mean, we could make it work,
但我们得有灯光 but we'd have to bring in some lights.
Mm-hmm.
如果我们想做这样的事 If we want to do something like this,
我们下周得带上主光灯 uh, we'll have to bring the hot lights
坦尼娅 别管闪光的事了 next week, Tanya-- forget about the strobes.
嗯 Hmm.
谢谢等待 Thank you for waiting.
当然 大师 Of course, Maestro.
对今天的排练感觉如何？ How are we feeling about today's rehearsal?
塞巴斯蒂安认为你在回旋曲中的独奏 Well, Sebastian thinks your solo in the scherzo
声音有点大 is, uh, a bit loud.
这是有可能的 It's possible.
我不同意 Hmm. I don't agree.
你的演奏的力度比第一小提琴的要大 Your dynamic marking is higher than that of the first violin.
是的 那是真的 Yes, that's true.
你看 Look.
塞巴斯蒂安已经老了 伙计 Sebastian's getting old, Knut.
我要把他轮换掉 I'm rotating him out.
你是第一个知道的 You're the first to know.
好吧⋯ Well...
那么我来组织团体会议投票 Then I will organize a caucus, and we'll take a vote.
不 不用 No. No, you won't.
投票是必须的 A vote must be taken.
我对选举会议很熟悉 I am familiar with the electoral conclave.
但是助理指挥的任命 But the appointment of the assistant conductor
完全由我决定 is entirely my decision.
是的 Yes.
那么 你在其他方面也会支持我了？ So, I can count on your support with the others?
是的 Yes.
好 Good.
你打算用谁来代替他？ Who will you replace him with?
我正在考虑几个人 Oh. I'm considering a few names,
但最主要的是我们要立即进行 but the main thing is we proceed with this immediately.
我明白了 I understand.
大师 其他乐手想知道 Maestro, uh, the other players would like to know
你是否已经选择了配套的作品 if you have chosen the companion piece.
啊！ Ach!
很快 我保证
好的 谢谢 Okay. Danke.
哦 Oh.
-我⋯ -没关系 -I... -It's okay.
谢谢 Danke.
将大调改为小调 ♪ Changing major to minor. ♪
对不起 打扰到你了 Uh, I'm sorry, I knocked.
我知道你想尽快找回要是 I knew you wanted your keys back as quickly as possible.
是的 谢谢 Yes, thanks.
你用的是公司的卡吗？ Did you use the company card?
是的 Yeah.
可以用它来支付⋯ We can use it for your, um...
你回家的车费 ... your taxi home.
是的 没问题 Yeah. It's all right.
你可以走了 You can go.
这不仅仅是钥匙的问题 Uh, it wasn't just the keys.
我需要有人来抱抱我 I-I need someone to hold me.
这里不合适 弗朗西斯卡 This isn't the place, Francesca.
你是⋯这不是⋯ You're... That's not about...
我只是⋯ I just...
我刚从手风琴学院那里拿到了这个 I just got this from someone over at Accordion.
哦 不 Oh, no.
这是什么时候的事？ When did this happen?
前天 Day before yesterday.
她发给你的那封邮件 感觉她已经⋯ That email she sent you, it felt like she was already...
删掉它 还有其他的也删了 Delete it. And the rest.
不要陷入任何阴谋之中 There's no reason to get caught up in any intrigue.
立刻 马上 Now, now.
得了吧 我们没办法阻止她 Come on. There's nothing we could have done to stop her.
她不是我们这一边的 She wasn't one of us.
我一直在想我们在乌卡亚利峡谷的旅行 I can't stop thinking about our trip up the Ucayali.
嗯 Hmm.
-我们三个人当时那么亲密 -是的 -The three of us were so close. -Yes.
但那是在她开始提要求之前 But that was before she started making demands.
她有些地方不太对劲 There was just something not quite right about her.
她许下了那么多的承诺 She had so much promise.
确实如此 She did.
是的 Yes.
几乎和你一样多 Almost as much as you.
现在我们必须忘记她 Now, we have to forget about her.
你明白吗？ You understand?
对吗？ Right?
-我很抱歉 -不 -I'm sorry. -No.
我知道你在工作 I know you're working.
哦 Oh.
你⋯ Your...
你钥匙在厨房的桌子上 Your keys are on the kitchen table.
我警告你⋯
危险
管弦乐队
她直接睡觉去了 She went straight to sleep.
甚至不用抱她的脚 Didn't even have to hold her foot.
她回家的时候心情好了很多 And she came home in a much better mood.
好样的 Oh, attagirl.
今天见到了新的大提琴手 Met the new cellist today.
长什么样子？ Oh, what was that like?
叫奥尔加·麦金娜 Olga Metkina.
是俄罗斯人 Russian.
很优秀的乐手 Strong player.
很好 Good.
她的脸部动作有点多 Her facial posture is a bit much.
怎么说？ How so?
她的连奏 Her legato.
让她看起来即将到达高潮 Looks like she's on the verge of climaxing.
她很年轻 She is young.
所以你见过她 Ah, so you've met her.
没有 No, no.
弗朗西斯卡提到了一些事 Uh, Francesca mentioned something.
我想她正在安排欢迎午餐 I think she's arranging a welcome lunch.
你可能想推迟 You may want to hold off on that.
她的邀请是有条件的 Her invitation is conditional.
你有疑问吗？ You have reservations?
真没有 No.
真没有 Not really.
我们要看看她是否适合 We need to see if she fits in.
你吃药了吗？ Did you take your pill?
没有 No.
谢谢你提醒我 Thank you for reminding me.
约翰娜昨天还好吧？ How was Johanna yesterday?
她现在不在 She stays away now.
如果情况有变化 你要告诉我 You let me know if that changes.
佩特拉 昨天晚上你是不是在我书房里？ Petra, last night, you weren't, by any chance, in my study?
-没有莉迪亚 -因为你知道 -No, Lydia. -Because you do know
没有我的时候你不应该出现在那里 you're not supposed to be in there without me.
我知道 I know.
这就对了 That's right.
所以⋯ S...
不是那么简单 It's not so simple.
应该⋯应该混乱一些 It's got... it's got to be messier.
好吗？ Okay?
压迫感要大 好吗？ A lot of pressure. Okay?
好吗？ Okay?
这里的人都很熟悉 S-So familiar to everyone here.
了解这个作品确实没什么帮助 好吧 It really doesn't help you to know this piece so well. Okay.
同样的地方 Same place.
拜托 Please.
拜托 拜托 Please, please, please.
你们要观察 You must watch.
好吗？ Okay?
就像是 It's got to be like, uh,
一个人在倾诉心声 just one person singing their heart out.
还有⋯ And...
好的 Okay.
大师 Maestro.
真是个惊喜 What a surprise.
-我只吃了点午饭 -嗯 -I was just having a spot of lunch. -Hmm.
需要为你提供什么吗？ C-Can I offer you anything?
不用了 谢谢 Uh, no, thank you.
-那就喝点茶吧？-不谢谢你 塞巴斯蒂安 -Mm, well, some tea, perhaps? -No, thank you, Sebastian.
你知道吗 我有时会忘记你在这里的收藏 You know, I forget sometimes just how impressive
是多么让人印象深刻 your collection is here.
那是卡林尼科夫吗？ Is that Kalinnikov?
-是的 -啊 - Yes. - Ah.
他是不是很了不起？ Isn't he marvelous?
这本来是博物馆的展品 He belongs in a museum.
90年代的时候我花了100卢布 I rescued him for a hundred rubles
-从基辅街头集市上抢救回来了 -嗯 -from a Kyiv street fair back in '90. -Huh.
就在隔离墙倒塌之后 Right after the Wall came down.
那一定很了不起 That must really have been something.
-能经历这一切真是不可思议 -嗯 -Oh, incredible to have lived through it. -Hmm.
我和安德里斯才刚到这里 I'd only just arrived here with Andris,
突然间不可能变成了可能 and suddenly the impossible was possible.
是的 Yeah.
我想谈一谈这个 I'd like to talk about that.
-统一的事？ -不 不 -The reunification? -Uh, no, no.
请坐下来 But please, sit down.
不 是关于你是否有可能 No, uh, about the possibility
担任管弦乐队领奏的事 of you fronting a subscription orchestra.
但我已经是了 But I already do.
是的 但并非担任乐队指挥 Yes, but not as Kapellmeister.
如果不是现在 那是什么时候 塞巴斯蒂安？ If not now, then when, Sebastian?
你是说离开柏林？ You mean leave Berlin?
是的 调换到其他地方 Well, rotate somewhere, yes.
但这里是我的家 But this is my home.
我们唯一的家就是指挥台 Our only home is the podium.
我们都是四海为家 We all live out of a suitcase.
你和其他人一样清楚这一点 You know that as well as anyone.
好好想想吧 Just think about it.
慢慢来 嗯？ Take your time. Mm?
这不是我们现在需要决定的事 It's not something we need to decide now.
是那个女孩 不是吗？ It's the girl, isn't it?
什么女孩？ I'm sorry, what girl?
你不是在问我 Y-You're not asking.
你是在告诉我 You're telling.
她一出现 我就知道我在这里的日子已经不多了 I knew as soon as she showed up that my days here were numbered.
安德里斯告诉我不要担心 但是⋯ Andris told me not to worry, but...
我知道 ... I knew.
我很明确我不知道你在说什么 I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about.
拜托 Oh, please.
只是因为没人敢说 Just because nobody dares breathe it.
我们知道你所做的事 We know the things you do.
你给予的那些小恩小惠 The little favors you grant.
我⋯ I'm...
我真不知道该怎么说 塞巴斯蒂安 I really don't know what to say, Sebastian.
我是说 你是在 I mean, you of all people
质疑我的诚信？ have the temerity to question my integrity?
不 我⋯我很抱歉 大师 No, no. I-I'm-I'm sorry, Maestro.
我⋯我不知道我在说什么 I don't, I don't know what I'm saying.
不 不很 明显 你完全知道你在说什么 No, no, no, it's clear you know exactly what you're saying.
我是说 如果你就是这么看待我的 I mean, if that's how you really feel about me,
那么你会不会说 留下 then wouldn't you say that staying is
是完全不可能的事？ entirely out of the question?
不不 拜托 大师 请原谅我 No, no, please, Maestro. Please forgive me.
原谅你什么？ For what?
原谅你的谄媚和虚伪 原谅你对婚姻的厌恶？ Your obsequiousness, your hypocrisy, your misogamy?
-我不是一个厌恶女人的人！-是厌恶婚姻 -I'm not a misogynist! -Misogamy.
是对婚姻的厌恶 It's a hatred of marriage.
安德里斯还是已婚人士 Andris is still very much married.
而你在同一层楼占据了一个公寓 不是吗？ And you occupy an apartment on the same floor, don't you?
我只是不喜欢他的暗示 I just don't like what he's implying.
这可能会导致消息失真 It could lead to more than Chinese whispers.
我知道 I know.
当你和我一起表明同性恋身份的时候 We barely survived Der Spiegel
我们在《明镜周刊》的报道下苟延残喘 when you and I came out together.
但有了弗朗西斯卡 没人可以指责我们 But with Francesca, no one could point their finger.
你们俩又不是在谈恋爱 It's not like you two are in a relationship.
不 那是真的 Yeah, that's true.
我只是…一想到那个呆板的老家伙 I just... Turns my stomach to think
的想法是对的 我就有点反胃 the old robot will be right about something.
他可能己经找安德里斯了 He's probably already run to Andris.
那么除了弗朗西斯卡之外 你觉得 Well, is there someone other than Francesca
还有谁更有资格？ you feel is more qualified?
有其他人可以胜任这项工作 There are others equal to the task.
嗯？ Hmm?
等一下再决定吧 Maybe wait to decide.
我们在德国留声机公司那里的情况如何？ Where are we at with DG?
-我和博伊德·穆尔办公室的一个助理谈过了… -嗯 -Uh, I spoke to an assistant in Boyd Muir's office... -Hmm.
他说他们不清楚为什么 ... who said they weren't sure why they decided
选择数字版 也不知道标准是什么 on a digital-only set, what the criteria were.
但我知道他们刚刚 But I do know they just did
为“龙鱼”做了全黑胶唱片 a full-vinyl pressing for Long Yu.
他们当然做了 Of course they did.
中国市场很厉害的 The Chinese market's incredible.
好的 我要来真的了 All right. Gloves off.
我要直接去找卢西恩 I'm going straight to Lucian.
也许他该想起 Maybe he needs to be reminded of
自己的安纳伯格包容倡议组织了 his Annenberg Inclusion Initiative.
你有他的联系方式对吗 You've got his contact details, right?
嗯哼 我马上发给你 Mm-hmm. I'll send it to you right now.
我的电脑又出问题了 My machine's misbehaving again.
我已经和信息技术部门的人说过了 I've already spoken to I.T.
这样吧 把你的电脑借给我用用 Just here-- let me borrow yours.
谢谢 Thank you.
抹茶呢 Where's the matcha?
我不知道你去哪了 Ah, I wasn't sure where you were.
只是去想清楚一个问题 Was working out a kink.
抹茶都凉了 我去拿过一杯 The-the matcha's cold. I-I'll get another.
没事 我不想喝了 It's all right. I don't need it.
我们继续工作吧 Let's just keep working.
弗朗西斯卡 你确实按照我说的那样 Francesca, you did as I asked
把和克莉斯塔的所有通信内容都删掉了 and deleted any and all correspondence with Krista,
对吗 correct?
我不确定 Um, I'm not sure.
我 我不太确定 Uh, I'm-I'm... I'm not sure.
我会再去确认一下的 I-I'll double-check.
你知道的 塞巴斯蒂安要离职了 You know, Sebastian's leaving us,
麻烦你 and I wondered if you might, uh,
列一份名单 找合适的人来做这份工作 compile a list of suitable replacements.
当然 你也可以加上自己的名字 Uh, of course, feel free to add your own name.
谢谢 Thank you.
你和新的大提琴手约好了吃午餐 Oh, your-your lunch with the new cellist.
哦 Oh.
我本来还想让你重新约过时间的 Meant to have you reschedule that
移到乐团投票之后 'til after the orchestra votes.
我现在发短信给她 I'll text her now.
不 等等 No, wait.
我还是去看看她有什么能耐吧 Might as well see what she's made of.
这道菜 This food.
黄瓜沙拉很好吃 The cucumber salad's, uh, very good.
如果你是素食主义者的话 It's kind of the only real option in this place
这道菜是你在这家店的唯一选择 if you're vegetarian.
你吃鱼吗 Uh, do you eat fish?
不吃 Not really.
我们可以去其他地方吃的 You know, we can go somewhere else.
比如美味厨房 L-Like the Store Kitchen.
这个传统真的挺蠢的 I mean, it's... uh, it's kind of a silly tradition really
要带乐团新成员来这里 that new members are brought here
和过去的幽灵一起共享美食 to sup with the ghosts of the past.
从某种程度上来说 基本上每个人 从拿破仑 I mean, at some point, everyone from... from Napoleon
到贝多芬都挤在这里的桌子上吃过饭 to Beethoven tucked in for a meal at one of these tables.
是啊 还有克拉拉·蔡特金 Yes, and Clara Zetkin.
不知道她在哪张桌子上吃的 I wonder which one.
那是谁 音乐家吗 Who's that? It's a, uh, musician?
不是 她帮助德国 No. She helped found
和德国共产党建立了社会民主主义妇女运动 Social Democratic women's movement in Germany
在希特勒上台后 and KPD until Hitler came to power
她被流放到了苏联 and she was exiled to Soviet Union.
克拉拉·蔡特金？ Clara Zetkin?
是的 Yes.
每年3月8日 我们都会去克里姆林宫红场墓园 Every March 8th, we place flowers at her plaque
给她的墓碑献花 in Kremlin Wall Necropolis.
那天是她的生日吗 Her birthday?
不是 是国际劳动妇女节 No, International Women's Day.
准备好点菜了吗 大师 Are you ready, Maestro?
-是的嗯⋯ -好的 我要烤羊肉串 还有小牛肉 -Yes, uh... -Yes, first shashlik, then veal.
-您要什么 -黄瓜沙拉 -For you? -Cucumber salad.
-谢谢 -卓越的选择 -Thank you. -Good choice.
再来点面包吗 Some more bread?
嗯 Hmm.
很好吃 你想吃一口吗 It's good. Would you like a bite?
哦 不 Oh, no.
不用了 谢谢 No. Thank you.
你在柏林住很久了吗 Have you lived in Berlin long?
不 不久 No, not at all.
我在威克有朋友 I have friends in Wicker I visit
-在知道乐团结果前 我都在那 -嗯 -until I know decision of orchestra. -Hmm.
西蒙诺夫会把你的位置一直空着吗 Simonov will hold your place?
我觉得会的 他是我叔叔 Yes, I think so. He is my uncle.
哦 Oh.
但是和柏林交响乐团一起演出一直是我的梦想 But my dream has always been to play with Berlin.
我也是 Oh, me, too.
没有比这更棒的地方了 There's nowhere like it.
我想罗斯托罗波维奇肯定是你的偶像之一 I imagine, uh, Rostropovich is a hero of yours.
当然 他很厉害 Well, of course, he was great.
我们在莫斯科国立柴可夫斯基音乐学院学了他的曲子 We study him at Moscow Conservatory,
但是长大以后 我最喜欢的大提琴家变成了杰奎琳·杜普雷 but growing up, my favorite is Jacqueline du Pré.
就是她让我想去拉大提琴的 She made me want to play cello.
你听的是哪张唱片 Which record was it?
不是唱片 只是油管上的视频 Not record. YouTube.
《埃尔加大提琴协奏曲》 Elgar Concerto.
好的 Oh, of course.
巴伦博伊姆指挥伦敦爱乐乐团的那场表演 With Barenboim conducting the London Phil.
我不知道谁在指挥 I don't know who was conducting.
但是她对我产生了一些影响 But she did something to me.
从那之后我决定学习大提琴 That's when I decide to learn piece
然后和青年乐团一起演奏 and play it with youth orchestra.
确实很有挑战性 你多大了 Quite a challenge. How old were you?
13岁 Thirteen.
哇 Wow.
我真想听听你的演奏 I'd love to hear it.
他们拍了视频 我发给你看 They make video. I will text to you.
我妈妈的报纸 My monther's newpaper delivery...
不见了 是你拿的吗 ...it's missing. Do you have it?
不是 No.
你确定吗 Are you sure?
确定 抱歉 No, I'm sorry.
太美了 Beautiful.
在我们休息之前 我想说 Now, um, just before we break,
我知道很多人都很好奇 I know many of you are wondering
与这个曲子相配的姊妹曲是什么 what the companion piece will be.
我也一直在考虑 And I have been thinking quite a bit about it
我在想我们能不能 and was wondering if we could just take
进行一个非正式的投票 来决定有没有可能把《第五交响曲》 an informal poll about possibly pairing the Five
和《埃尔加大提琴协奏曲》配合在一起 with Elgar's Cello Concerto.
我们已经经历了很多事件 Oh, and, uh, given what we've all been through,
未来也会经受很多磨难 what we're still going through,
现在我们终于重新欢聚一堂 我 and we're finally back together as a family, I-I...
我觉得也许独奏者 ... I feel that maybe the soloist
应该来自我们自己的团队 should come from within our own ranks.
是啊 Yeah.
很好 好的 很好 Good. Okay, good.
就是 抱歉 我还要再说一点 Just... Sorry. One more question.
我这话其实是对你说的 戈西亚 And this really is just for you, Gosia.
我是说 I mean...
其实 一般来说 ... as a practical matter, I mean, this would
独奏的位置是你的 normally fall to you.
我知道古斯塔夫·马勒青年管弦乐团的要求有多高 But given how much is gonna be asked of you with the Mahler,
但是我想知道你会介意 I-I wondered if you'd be at all bothered
我们进行试演吗 if we were to hold auditions?
这确实有点另类 Well, that's a bit unorthodox.
但是我并不反对 But, in theory, I have no objection.
我犹豫的唯一原因 My only hesitation will depend on
就是这些试演的时间 when these auditions might take place.
我不希望这些试演会以任何形式 I wouldn't want them in any way
来干扰我们的小组练习 to interfere with our sectionals.
不 你想的很有道理 No, no, no. That's a good point.
这次试演肯定会 I mean, it is gonna have to be a...
你们肯定要为此全力以赴的 It's gonna have to be a sprint.
嗯 Um...
周一怎么样 How about Monday?
好的 All right.
好的 很好 Okay, good.
克努特 你周一能组织一下投票吗 Knut, would you assemble a quorum for Monday?
请记住 And remember,
所有乐器组的成员都可以来参加 All section members are invited
我来看看她要说什么 Let me see what she says.
好的 我得走了 Okay, I got, I gotta go.
布丽塔 嗨 Britta, hi.
莉迪亚 Lydia.
-我正好听到了结尾 -啊 -Just caught the end. -Ah!
你觉得怎样 听上去如何 What'd you think? How's it, uh, how's it sounding?
美妙绝伦 Oh, it's fantastic.
我等不及去听现场录音了 I can't wait until the live recording.
是啊 Yes, well.
结束的时候我会很高兴的 I'll be happy when it's over.
就是这样的 It's always that way.
我知道你很忙 也不想给你增添负担 I know you're busy, and I don't want to add to your load,
但是 but...
安德里斯·戴维斯打电话来了 Andris Davis called.
听着 他因为我换掉塞巴斯蒂安的事情很不高兴 Look, he's upset I'm rotating Sebastian.
不 不是 No, no, no, no, no.
他说的是其他事 Something else.
但是等你选好代替他的人了以后 But you will please let Laura know
麻烦马上告诉劳拉 as soon as you have chosen his replacement
让她好去准备新闻稿 so she can prepare a press release.
好的 当然 Yeah, of course.
所以他为什么打电话 Uh, so what did he want?
为了来抱怨某个司机很不准时 To complain about the punctuality of a driver
他似乎认为那个司机是董事会提供给他的 he seems to believe the board supplies him with.
你知道这件事吗 Do you know anything about this?
知道 Yes.
不 那个司机是我花钱请的 No, it's just... it's just something I pay for.
那他为什么认为是董事会请的 Then why does he believe it's the board?
因为我想让他那么认为 Because he needs to believe that.
他得认⋯ H-He needs to b...
他得认为自己没有被人遗忘 布丽塔 needs to believe he hasn't been forgotten, Britta.
有学院以冯·卡拉扬的名字命名 Uh, the academy has von Karajan's name on it,
这里到处都是阿巴多的爱慕神殿 and there are love shrines to Abbado all over this place.
但是戴维斯这个名字无处可见 But the name of Davis, it's essentially nowhere to be seen.
好吧 All right.
也许可以让弗朗西斯卡和司机说一声 Then perhaps Francesca could have a word with the driver.
当然 Of course.
还有一件事 One other thing.
不是件让人开心的事 It's unpleasant.
哦 是吗 Oh, is it?
运营资金出现缺口了？ Operational shortfall?
我又得带泽温夫人出去喝酒了吗 Must I take Mrs. Sewing out to drinks again?
不 不是乐团的事 No, no, no, nothing to do with the orchestra.
你还记得手风琴学院 Do you remember an Accordion Academy fellow
有个叫克莉斯塔·泰勒的人吗 named Krista Taylor?
记得 怎么了 Yes. Why?
她自杀了 Apparently, she committed suicide.
天呐 可怜的小家伙 Oh, God. Poor thing.
她的父母肯定⋯ Her parents mu...
等等 不好意思 我没明白 布丽塔 Wait, sorry, I'm... I'm confused, Britta.
为什么是你来告诉我 Why, why were you put in the position
这个可怕的消息 to deliver this terrible news?
为什么手风琴学院不直接联系我 Why didn't Accordion contact me directly?
你的立场有点微妙 莉迪亚 It's delicate, Lydia.
卡普兰先生认为你最好 Mr. Kaplan thought it might be best
在和手风琴学院的任何人交流之前 if you contacted a lawyer
联系好律师 before speaking with anyone at Accordion.
大概那个“任何人〞也包括艾略特他本人 Well, presumably, that anyone includes Eliot himself.
不好意思 我为什么要那么做呢 I'm, I'm sorry, why-why would I need to do that?
很显然 有人指控你了 Apparently, some accusations have been made.
指控？哪种指控？ Accusations? What kind of accusations?
他没说 He didn't say.
但是他们去找了手风琴学院的顾问 But they were brought to Accordion's counsel.
卡普兰先生说他觉得肯定不会出什么问题的 Mr. Kaplan said he's certain nothing will come of it,
但是还是小心为上 but one can't be too careful.
抱歉这么晚来电 我是莉迪亚·塔尔 I'm sorry about the hour. It's Lydia Tár calling.
我需要马上和辛格先生通话 I need to speak to Mr. Singer immediately.
是的 Yes.
是的 事态紧急 Yes, it's urgent.
你累了吗 Tired?
睡意总是难以捉摸 Sleep's elusive.
以前在录音前我也是这样 I was the same before a recording date.
莉迪亚 Lydia...
你确定对塞巴斯蒂安的决定不变吗 are-are you absolutely certain about Sebastian?
嗯哼 Mm-hmm.
你想让谁来代替他 Who will you replace him with?
可能是安德鲁·克拉斯特 Possibly Andrew Crust.
他在维也纳交响乐团协助奥托·陶斯克 He's been assisting Otto Tausk at the VSO.
不是那个女孩？ Not the girl?
安德里斯 Andris...
你有没有过 ... have you ever had an issue
和学生或者同事不和 with a, a student or colleague,
因为对方误解了你的意图 where that person may have misinterpreted your intention?
有人对我有抱怨吗 Has someone been complaining about me?
-不 当然不是 -因为现在 -No, no, no, of course not. -Because at this point,
他们已经失去机会了 they've missed their chance.
-我已经隐退了 -是的 我知道 -I'm out of the game. -Yes, yes, I know, I know.
的确如此 Course you are.
感谢上帝 我从来没有像吉米·莱文那样 Thank God I was never pulled from the podium
被拉下过指挥台 like Jimmy Levine.
或者像夏尔·迪图瓦那样被袭击 Or-or hunted like Charles Dutoit.
我觉得你这么问是有原因的 I take it you're asking for a reason.
最近的新闻里有太多 Well, there's just been so much of this sort of thing
这种事情了 in the news lately.
现在这个时代 被指控的人就像有罪一样 Well, nowadays, to be accused is the same as being guilty.
但是我想很多年前我和 But I suppose that was also the case
富特文格勒就是这种情况 all those years ago with Furtwängler.
我还和卡拉扬有过一些不和 A bit with Karajan, too.
你们在争谁是更好的指挥家？ Who was the better conductor?
我没有在富特文格勒手下演奏过 I never played under Furtwängler.
是啊 我第一次来乐团时 那些老乐团成员 Yeah, when I first arrived here, the older members
都沉默不语 had, uh, hmm, hushed opinions.
但同时 他们也想把那个时代抛在脑后 At the same time, they wanted to leave that era behind.
什么 战争时代？ What, the war?
-不战后时代 -啊 -No, postwar. -Ah.
去纳粹化 Denazification.
只要有人指向你 Someone pointed a finger at you,
一切又要重新开始 process started all over again.
富特文格勒从来都没有加入过纳粹党 Furtwängler never joined the Party.
他不愿给纳粹敬礼 Refused to give the salute
或者指挥《霍斯特·威塞尔之歌》 or to conduct the "Horst-Wessel-Lied."
更不愿在他的信上签上“希特勒万岁” Or to sign his letters, "Heil, Hitler."
就算是他写给希特勒的信也是如此 Even those he wrote to Hitler.
但他不得不被去纳粹化 But he was obliged to be denazified.
当时他已经半退休了 Until then, he was semiretired,
就和尸体厮混在一起 playing corpses.
和尸体厮混在一起？ Playing corpses?
他在一个墓地里悄悄演奏 Secretly performing in a graveyard.
你不会把不得体性行为 You're not equating sexual impropriety
和被指控为纳粹相提并论吧？ with being an accused Nazi?
不管怎样 你都要做好准备 Either way, you had to be ready.
这么多年来 我一直确保衣柜里所有的衣架 For years, I made sure all the hangers in my closet
都是朝一个方向挂的 were facing the same direction.
周一有多少人要试演 How many are auditioning on Monday?
一个都没有 No one.
一个都没有？ No one?
也许有马丁 Maybe Martin.
他和戈西亚关系一直不好 He's never gotten along with Gosia.
他很想坐在舞台前方一次试试 He would love to sit downstage for once.
好吧 Well...
他还是得试演 he's still gonna have to audition.
当然 Of course.
我得遵守规则 Have to follow the rules.
我们是不是太正式了 弗朗西斯卡 Aren't we being a bit formal, Francesca?
据我所知 只有一位演奏者 对吗 From what I understand, there's only one player, right?
不 大师 有两位 No, Maestro, there are two.
大家都意见一致了 Well, it's unanimous.
-第二位 -嗯哼 - Number two. - Mm-hmm.
但有个问题 And we have a problem.
她并没有被正式邀请 She's not officially been invited
成为我们乐团的成员 to become a member of the orchestra.
她并不需要为我们独奏 Well, she wouldn't need to be to solo for us.
试演的基本条件 I believe the criteria of the audition
不是乐团所有乐器组的成员吗 was all section members?
-那我们就只能取消她的试演了 -不 - Then her audition gets thrown out. - No.
弗朗西斯卡 麻烦把马丁请回来 Francesca, please ask Martin to come back in
我们来告诉他这个好消息吧 so we can give him the news.
等等 戈西亚 我们谈谈 Wait. Gosia, let's talk.
该死 Shit!
太好了 Yeah!
我会向她确认独奏的排练时间的 I'll confirm solo rehearsal dates with her.
谢谢 Thank you.
请坐下 Have a seat.
我已经决定好了 I have made a decision
塞巴斯蒂安的替代者 regarding Sebastian's replacement.
我想让你知道这并不是一个简单的决定 And I want you to know it wasn't an easy one.
在这个位置 需要负担起巨大的责任 Uh, this position brings with it enormous responsibility,
抛开我个人对你的喜爱不谈 - and my personal affection for you aside... -
我还是得去找更有经验的人 ... I will have to go with someone more, more experienced.
别烦我 Oh, leave me alone.
我没有拿你的报纸 I don't have your paper.
我之前就告诉过你了 我⋯ I've told you before, I...
不好意思 请进 Oh, I'm sorry. Please come in.
很好 Good. Good.
我觉得你的音乐对比现在好多了 I-I think the contrast is, it's much better now.
-你觉得呢 -嗯 -Don't you think? -Hmm.
你想要什么咖啡 How do you take your coffee?
很浓的黑咖啡 Black. Strong.
我可以弹钢琴吗 Is all right if I play?
嗯？可以 当然可以的 Hmm? Oh, yes, of course, of course.
我就写了这么多 That's as far as I've gotten.
但是这曲子很棒 But it's good.
这里的这个部分 Um, this part here.
也许可以从A调改成降B调？ Maybe change A to B-flat?
好多了 我喜欢 That's better. I like that sound.
来吧 休息一下 Come on. Take a break.
好的 Okay.
莎朗？ Sharon?
你好 Hello.
莎朗和她姐妹出去了
看她们窃窃私语的那个样子
我敢说她们肯定不是去干好事的
孩子就在自己房间里
佩特拉 Petra.
你在里面干什么 What are you doing in here?
我在躲着她 I'm hiding from her.
为什么 Why?
因为她让我把自己的东西放整齐 Because she told me to put my things in order,
但是已经很整齐了 but they already are.
我看出来了 I can see that.
来吧 Come on.
他们都在等着你 They're all waiting for you.
我要给他们每个人一支笔 I'm going to give everyone a pencil.
每个人都给？ All of them?
他们不能都去指挥 亲爱的 They can't all conduct, honey.
这可不是什么民主 It's not a, it's not a democracy.
好了 Okay, uh...
-嘿 很好 -是的 很好 -Hey, that's good. -Yeah. Good.
你开心吗 You happy?
你和泰勒小姐认识多久了 How long were you acquainted with Miss Taylor?
我得和我的助理确认一下 Oh, I'd have to double-check with my assistant,
但是总的来说 but cumulatively speaking, I'd say
-我觉得没几个月 -嗯 -not more than a few months. -Hmm.
-谢谢你花时间回答问题 大师 -没事 -Thank you for your time, Maestro. -Not at all.
-这份录音将会存在一个保密服务器上 -嗯哼 -This recording will exist on a protected server... -Mm-hmm.
辛格先生己经就此签订了律师-当事人保密协议 ... under attorney-client privilege with Mr. Singer.
-很好 -他会继续跟进你 -Great. -He will follow up with you
帮你准备证词的 to help prepare for the deposition.
证词？ Deposition?
是的 Yes.
我还以为你知道 I assumed you were aware.
辛格先生的办公室说他们一直在和你的助理 Mr. Singer's office said they'd been coordinating
进行协调配合 with your assistant.
弗朗西斯卡 你最好现在就给我 Francesca, you'd better get your pretty little ass to work
赶紧来工作 right now.
我们从弗朗西斯卡那得到的唯一联系 The only communication we've received from Francesca
是她半夜发给我助理的一封邮件 was an email to my assistant in the middle of the night
说自己要马上辞职 tendering her immediate resignation,
她还说如果她要提供更务细节信息的话 stating she would be in contact
会再来联系我们的 when she had more details to provide.
哪种细节信息 What kind of details?
我想是新地址吧 A new address, I suppose.
同时 我们一整个早上都在努力 In the meantime, we've been trying all morning
找到能够临时协助你的 to find someone suitable to assist you
合适人选 on a temporary basis.
现在也许你的新指挥助理 For now, perhaps your new assistant conductor
比较合适 would be the right fit.
不 他到《第五交响曲》直播表演之后才有空 No. No. He's not available 'til after the live Five date.
好的 我准备好了 我们走 Yes, I'm ready. Let's go.
我知道你有多依赖她 I know how much you depended on her.
两面派的小贱人 Two-faced little bitch.
想象一下她有多受伤 塔尔 Imagine her hurt, Tár.
-你怎么还替她说话 -天呐 开慢点 -Don't you dare try to defend her. -God, slow down!
她会傻乎乎地回来的 She'll come galumphing back.
-我的手机就像其他机器人一样傻 -塔尔 开⋯ -I mean, I've got a dumb phone like every robot. -Tár, s...
每天发短信能有多难 - How hard can it be to text all day? -
开慢点 Slow down!
要么让我下车 Or let me out!
弗朗西斯卡 Francesca!
小姐？ Fräulein?
你这是非法侵入
快点来 Quickly!
来吧 Come.
我们必须转移她 We must transer her.
会没事的 小姐 It's going to be alright, Fräulein.
不要用手 Not the hand!
用带子 Use the strap!
抱歉 我又迟到了 Sorry I'm late again.
哦 Oh.
你住在这吗 D-Do you live here?
一般不住 不会 Not normally, no.
请自便吧 Uh, make yourself at home.
我去穿件衣服 I'm just gonna put something on.
你有毛巾吗 Do you have a towel?
-有的 -谢谢 - Yes. - Thank you.
我被雨淋湿了 I got caught in the rain.
有个我音乐家朋友的小型音乐会 There is small concert with musician friends.
你该来听听看 You should come.
谢谢 但是 我真的得回家 Thanks, but I-I... really must get home.
-你有孩子 对吧 -嗯哼 -You have child, yes? -Mm-hmm.
我是不会生孩子的 I will not do that.
对有些人来说宠物更适合他们 Pets are better for some people.
哦 Oh.
怎么 哦 What... Oh.
-不好意思 -再见 -Sorry. -Bye.
好的 再见 好的 Oh, yes. Goodbye. Yes.
-再见 -好 -Goodbye. -Okay.
-哦 -好的 - Oh. - Okay.
哦 奥尔加 Oh, Olga!
奥尔加 Olga!
奥尔加？ Olga?
有人吗 Hello?
奥尔加？ Olga?
你为什么不去报警 Why didn't you go to the police?
我和别人打架了 对方跑了 有什么好说的 I fought. He ran. What's to tell?
我的天呐 Oh, God.
我得去给你拿点止痛的 I'm gonna get you something for the pain.
不 不用了 No, I don't need anything.
不 我去给你拿点 No, I'm gonna get you something.
有人对你很坏吗 Was someone mean to you?
是啊 Ja.
你是我认识的最漂亮的人 You are the most beautiful person I know.
莉迪亚 Lydia!
怎么了 What is it?
抓住我的脚 Hold my foot.
好点了吗 Is that better?
是的 Yes.
看着我 Look at me.
好了 Okay.
我们来解决一个显而易见的问题 Let's, uh, shoo the elephant from the room.
“她的脸怎么了” "What the hell happened to her face?"
"她是不是安排了鼻子和眼睛的整容手术” "Did she, uh, schedule a nose and eye job
“但在整容医生手术做到一半逃跑了” and bail before the surgeon finished the other half?"
不是 No.
我被袭击了 I was, uh, I was attacked.
谢谢 Thank you.
我没事 真的 I'm fine. Really.
你们该看看对方的样子 Should've seen the other guy.
好了 All right.
别碰我 Don't.
很痛 It burns.
你得去看看医生 You must see the doctor.
到下周医生才有空 He's booked 'til next week.
我可以再打电话给他们 I'll call them again
告诉他们你有多痛 and tell them how much pain you're in.
不 我们还是先结束这里的工作吧 No, no, let's just, let's just finish up here.
好吗 Okay?
总体的平衡不错 Overall, the balance feels right.
除了快速梳理之外 Other than a quick brushup,
我们应该集中在《埃尔加大提琴协奏曲》的练习上 we should concentrate on the Elgar.
你确定吗 You're certain of that?
我是这么觉得的 没错 I think so. Yes.
我们在这里的表演绝对坚若磐石 We're absolutely rock-solid there,
但是我想在这里抑制住他们 but I am going to try to hold them back here.
他们只是被你这里的滑奏吸引了 Uh, they're just getting caught up in the power
他们想要跟上你的滑奏 与之匹敌 of your, uh, glissando in there, trying to match it.
也许 Um, probably...
你是在哪被袭击的 大师 Where were you attacked, Maestro?
那不重要 Oh, doesn't matter.
给你 Here.
谢谢 Thank you.
原来你在这 There you are.
-什么时候摔的？-我记不清了 -When did this fall happen? -Uh, it's all a blur.
大概是三四天之前吧 Three, four days ago.
我的肩膀特别不舒服 It's just my shoulder. Yeah.
特别灼热酸疼 就想在水塘边睡觉硌着了一样 It kind of burns, like I fell asleep by the pool.
好的 把衣服穿上吧 Okay, you can put your shirt back on.
伤口的一些神经损坏了 You've damaged some nerves.
你感受到的灼热感 The burning sensation you're feeling
是感觉神经性综合征 is called notalgia paresthetica.
肝厥神经？ Nostalgia?
感觉神经 发第三声 "Notalgia." No "S."
-那我该怎么办？ -啥也不用干 -Well, how do we treat it? -You don't.
过一段时间 自己就好了 Eventually, it goes away.
脊柱矫形一下可能会有帮助 你的脊柱有点儿侧弯 An adjustment might help. You're somewhat crooked.
好吧 那你一定是 Oh, well, then you must be
被犹太人剥削的黑奴货物吧 a Negro product exploited by the Jews.
现在让我们来看看这位坐在钢琴椅上的 Now let's turn our gaze back to the piano bench up there
超性感妙龄女郎吧 to a superhot young woman.
非常棒 That's-that's... th-that was very good.
你可以自慰 Now, you could masturbate,
但你到底在对我做什么？ but what are you actually doing to me?
-布丽塔 -是我 - Britta. - Hi, hi.
-你看到了吗？-看了 刚刚看到 -Have you seen it? -Yes, yes. I've just seen it.
今天下午紧急集合 ... gathering this afternoon.
-今天下午？-有问题吗？ -This afternoon? -Is that a problem?
没有 没有问题 No, just... No, it's no problem.
首先 那堂课是在无手机区进行的 First of all, that class was conducted in a tech-free zone.
其次 这个违反规定的人 And second, whoever violated that rule
恶意编辑出了我们看到的内容 他截取了课堂的部分内容 edited what we've all seen to create linguistic traps
制造语言陷阱 捏造了事实 to completely redefine my words.
你们看那个转向学生的镜头 I mean, look at the reverse shots on the students.
根本不可能是实时完成的 There's no way that was done in real time.
纯剪辑 It's a hatchet job.
莉迪亚 我知道是剪辑 I'm sure that's true, Lydia.
但如果只是这个视频的话 我们就不会紧急集合了 And were it just this video, we would not be sitting here.
不幸的是 视频链接到 Unfortunately, it's linked to an article in
《纽约邮报》中一篇关于克莉斯塔·泰勒自杀的文章 the New York Post regarding Krista Taylor's suicide,
文章暗指视频女生是他们采访过的 which alludes to other Accordion fellows
其他手风琴爱好者 they claim to have interviewed.
劳拉 你能告诉我们你和他们的交涉吗？ Laura, can you tell us about your conversations?
我们还没有任何交涉 We haven't had any.
很明显 我们没有给予回应 Obviously, we gave no response
-因为我们首先想见面讨论一下如何回应 -好的 -as we first wanted to meet to discuss strategy. -Mm-hmm.
-这是那篇文章 -劳拉 谢谢你 -Here's the article. -Thank you, Laura.
“以在工作中上位为由” "Enticed and groomed multiple young women
“引诱和培养多名年轻女性与自己发生性行为” "to engage in sex acts for professional favors.
“打压那些没有遵从自己潜规则的人” Blocked opportunities to those who didn't comply."
这完全是虚构的 This is total fiction.
《纽约邮报》上全都是不实的名人丑闻 And the Post is a how-de-do scandal rag.
没人会当回事的 No serious person reads it.
而就克莉斯塔·泰勒而言 And so far as Krista Taylor goes,
她一直在骚扰我 she was disturbed.
我的意思是 她对我念念不忘 I mean, she fixated on me.
在哪方面？ In what way?
她给我寄一些奇怪的礼物 She sent me weird gifts.
在网上嘲弄我 She trolled me online.
-她试图向我传递信息 -什么样的信息？ -She tried to send me signals. -Well, what kind of signals?
她破坏了我的维基百科页面 说她是我的缪斯 She vandalized my Wikipedia page to say she was my muse.
这很容易查出来 对吗？ I mean, that's easily checked, right?
那你有没有报告过这一情况或提出投诉？ And did you ever report this or file a complaint?
没有 No.
没有 也许我应该投诉 No. And I... Look, I probably, I probably should have.
我只是可怜她 I... I felt sorry for her.
你跟莎朗分享这些东西了吗？ Is this something you shared with Sharon?
不 我不想给她增加负担 No. I didn't want to burden her with it.
-你不觉得你应该跟她这些吗？ -我应该说 -Don't you think you should have? -Yes. Yes.
那你觉得我们应该怎么做？ Well, what-what do you advise?
到目前为止 文章和视频还没有传播太广 Well, for now, it hasn't gotten all that much traction.
其他媒体没有提及此事 也没有打电话要求回应 None of the trades have linked to it or called for comment.
-那我们就静观其变吧 -好的 -So I say let's see what happens. -Mm-hmm.
莉迪亚 我们想在本周五的捐赠者会议之前 We wanted to give you as much warning as possible, Lydia,
尽可能多提醒你一下 before this Friday's donor meeting.
很不幸的是 我不会参加那个会议 Well, unfortunately, I won't be there.
但我强烈建议你参加 Well, I very much advise that you are.
我在纽约有个新书发布会 I have the book launch in New York
显然还有一个取证会 and apparently a deposition.
那我们就在你回来后向你汇报情况 Well, we'll fill you in upon your return, then.
周末快乐 Enjoy your weekend.
饿死了 Starving.
今天完成了我的工作 Finished my thing today.
恭喜 我们应该出去庆祝一下 Congratulations. We should go out and celebrate.
不行 我还得打包行李 I can't. I gotta pack.
-你好 -你好 莉迪亚 - Hi! - Hi, Lydia.
莎朗？ Sharon?
什么事？ Yeah?
你看到我的表演乐谱了吗？ You seen my performance score?
没有 为什么这么问 没跟其他的在一起吗？ No. Why? Isn't it with the other ones?
没有 没有在一起 No. No, it's not.
你确定它不在我的办公室里吗？ Are you sure it's not in my office?
好的 那管弦乐队的图书馆呢？ Yeah, what about the orchestra library?
能帮我再查看一遍吗？ Yeah, can you check again, please?
我不知道 是的 确实是 I don't know. Yes, exactly.
莉迪亚？ Lydia?
怎么了？ Yes?
你什么时候回来？ When will you be back?
后天 The day after tomorrow.
你能保证吗？ Will you promise?
我保证 Yes, I promise.
-晚安 -晚安 -Good night. -Good night.
谢谢 你们还有多余的水吗？ Thanks. Do you have any bottles?
当然 Of course.
在关闭机舱门之前 你还需要什么吗？ Do you need anything else before I close the cabin door?
是的 还有一个人要上来 Uh, yes. Uh, we're waiting on one more.
对我提出的所有 To all my questions
与克莉斯塔·泰勒和其他人 pertaining to your communications
关系的问题 with Krista Taylor and others,
你的答案永远是 your answers have always been
“我不知道”或者“我没有印象” "I don't know" or "I don't remember."
有什么我可以给你看的东西 Is there anything I could show you
能帮助你恢复记忆吗？ that might help refresh your recollection?
比如一些文件 如您或您的私人助理 Any documents, such as emails from you
兰蒂尼小姐的电子邮件 or your personal assistant, Miss Lentini,
可能有助于你回忆起你做过和没做过的事情？ that might help you recall what you did and didn't say?
我猜你现在已经听说了 I guess you heard by now.
布莱恩特公园把你撞到了第53大街 Bryant Park bumped you to 53rd Street.
这是卡普兰基金准备的发言稿 This is the Kaplan Fund's prepared statement.
我很遗憾地说 I'm sorry to say this is likely
这可能是我们最后一次见面了 the last time we'll see each other.
现在我可以自己买飞机票了 Well, now I can buy my own plane tickets.
而你只能去麻烦别人 And you can bother someone else
请教如何爬上指挥台 to try and teach you to crawl to the podium.
这里有没有后门？ Is there a back entrance?
“事实上 用于解释音乐的常见隐喻” "Indeed, the common metaphors used to explain music
“是基于这样的想法” "are based on the idea that music
“音乐是一种语言 尽管是一种秘密的语言” "is a language, albeit a secret one.
“在这种状态下 神圣而不可知” "And in this way, holy and unknowable.
“我们发出的这些快乐的声音” "These joyful noises we make being the closest thing
“是我们任何人可能经历过的最接近神性的东西” "any of us might ever experience to the divine...
“但这仅仅是空气流动的行为所产生的东西” "... yet something born by the mere act of moving air.
“与鸟鸣无异” No different than birdsong."
那半小时后在楼下见面吃饭？ So, meet downstairs in half an hour for dinner?
谢谢你 但我在倒时差 我现在要去睡觉了 Thank you, but I am jet-lagged. I go to sleep now.
好的 我也是 我也可能去睡觉 Yeah, me, too. I'll... probably do the same.
你好 Yes, hello.
是的 我的房间里没有水了 Yes, there's no water in my room.
我已经检查了迷你吧 没有 Yes, I've checked the minibar.
送一瓶水来需要多长时间？ How long would it take to get a bottle of water?
算了 我还是自己下去取吧 Uh, don't worry. I'll just come down.
请到大厅 Lobby, please.
天呐 Oh, Jesus.
是布丽塔说的 It was Britta.
对吗？ Right?
肯定是布丽塔跟你说的 I mean, that is how you heard about
这些老套潜规则谎言的 these millennial robots trading in lies.
我根本不关心茱莉亚的事情 I couldn't care less about the Juilliard thing.
她真是太闲了 Too much time on her hands.
她是边缘人物 She's fringe.
最坏的那种 The worst kind.
每次我走出这所房子的时候 Every time I walk out of this house,
她在你耳边阴阳怪气地说着什么 或者问我 she's in your ear with intrigue or she's asking me about
一些其他边缘人的情况 比如萨曼莎·汉克伊 some other piece of fringe, like Samantha Hankey.
一个无名小卒 除了在午餐时说一下我 God, a nobody who has nothing better to do
八卦我的花边新闻 就没有其他更好的事情可做了 than drop my name at lunch and imply things.
我真可怜你 I feel sorry for you.
别了吧 Save it.
昨晚我一直在打你的电话 I tried calling you last night.
你跟她玩得开心码？ Did you have fun with her?
我的背痛得要命 My back is killing me.
弗朗西斯卡走了 Francesca left,
我只是需要有人帮我拿行李而已 and I simply needed someone to carry my bags.
不然我还应该请求谁？ I mean, who was I supposed to ask?
跟我一起？克努特吗？ To go with me? Hmm? Knut?
该死 Jesus fucking...
我接受了你的许多事情 There are many things I accept about you.
最终 And in the end,
我相信我可以克服这样的事情 I'm sure I could get over something like this.
但这不是我们要讨论的问题 不是吗？ But that's not what we're talking about, is it?
这些来自那个 These accusations
自杀女孩父母的指责？ from the parents of the girl who suicided?
你真的相信他们说的话吗？ You honestly believe what they're saying?
他们在谎言 They're lies.
你明白我昨天走进部门 Do you understand what it was like
看到每个人都在窃窃私语 to walk into my sectional yesterday
谈论我是什么感觉吗？ and to see everybody whispering about me?
这与他们指责你的事情无关 It's got nothing to do with what they're accusing you of.
很简单 我生气是因为 It's a simple matter
你没有警告我 我们的家庭处于危险之中 of not warning me that our family is in danger.
警告你有什么意义呢？ And what good would that have done?
我的意思是 你能做什么来使事情变得更好？ I mean, what could you possibly do to make things better?
因为我应该被警告 Because I deserve that.
这就是规则 Those are the rules.
你应该向我寻求那该死的建议 You are to ask for my fucking counsel,
就像往常一样 the way you always have.
当你第一次作为客座指挥家 The way you did when you first arrived here
来到这里寻找永久职位时 你就是那样做的 as a guest conductor looking for a permanent position.
你问我政策是什么 You asked me what were the politics,
政策风向怎么样 我们怎么摆平它 what were the moves, how could we swing it.
当然 Of course...
这些对话是在另一张床上进行的 these conversations took place in another bed.
更确切地说 沙发 Or rather, the couch
那个你仍然放不下的可怕沙发 of that horrible place you still can't let go of.
旧日的忧伤袭来 Old sorrow blows in.
你把我们的关系定义为交易关系 真是太残忍了 How cruel of you to define our relationship as transactional.
你只有一种关系不是这样的 There's only one relationship you've ever had that wasn't.
而她正睡在隔壁的房间里 And she is sleeping in the room next door.
显然 你甚至没有想过这个问题 Apparently, this hasn't even crossed your mind.
佩特拉 Petra!
快过来 亲爱的 Come here, darling.
-很好 -是吗？ -It was good. -Was it?
-是的 -你想要去公园玩吗？ -Yeah. -You want to go to the park?
不要这样做 请不要这样做 Don't do this. Please don't do this.
不要 Please don't.
你好 我是安娜·弗兰岑 Hello. I am Anna Franzen.
这是我己故母亲的公寓 This is my late mother's apartment.
好的 你母亲的事我很遗憾 Oh, yeah, I'm so sorry about your mother.
谢谢你 Thank you.
你的妹妹怎么样了？ How's your sister doing?
埃莉诺现在住在新克尔恩的疗养院里 Eleanor lives now in a facility in Neukölln.
很抱歉给你带来麻烦 I'm sorry to trouble you,
但我丈夫和我要卖掉这个地方 but my husband and I are selling the place
忍不住听到了音乐 and couldn't help hearing the music.
哦 Oh.
我很高兴你能喜欢 I'm glad you enjoyed it.
我们想知道您 We were wondering if there are
是否有具体的排练时间 specific hours you rehearse,
这样我们就可以根据情况安排看房时间 so we can schedule showings around them.
我们不想这些噪音吓跑了 We don't want to scare potential buyers off
潜在的买家 with all the noise.
不会 Oh, no.
No.
你们肯定不想那样 No, we wouldn't want that.
公寓出售 ♪ Apartment for sale ♪
你母亲尸骨未寒 ♪ Your mother's buried deep ♪
而现在你要把她的公寓 ♪ And now you're gonna keep ♪
出售掉 ♪ Her apartment for sale ♪
你妹妹被关在监狱里 ♪ Your sister's in jail ♪
你把你的妹妹送进监狱 ♪ You put your sister in jail ♪
你们都将下地狱 ♪ You're all going to hell ♪
公寓出售 ♪ Your apartment's for sale! ♪
好的 Okay.
听我指挥 Give me some eyes.
快点 听我指挥 Come on, give me some eyes!
莉迪亚 Lydia.
这是我的配乐 This is my score.
莉迪亚 你糊涂了 Lydia, you're confused.
这是我的配乐 It's my score!
你他妈的什么都不是 You fucking little nothing!
我自己走 I'm fine.
请签一下CAMI经纪公司凭单 You sign CAMI voucher.
下午好 这里是CAMI经纪公司 Good afternoon. CAMI.
请稍等 Hold on.
通常情况下 我会认为 Normally, I'd think Lisa Rich
我们预订部门的丽莎·里奇会很适合你 in our booking department would be a great fit for you,
但她还有很多的事情没做 but she's just got too much on her plate.
所以这里介绍一下你的新搭档 杰克 So, I'd like to team you with Jake here.
杰克 向莉迪亚介绍一下 Jake, you want to, you want to show Lydia
你为她准备的东西？ what you've prepared for her?
好的 Well...
现在是重启阶段 right now it's a reset.
我们所追求的是更少 而不是更多 What we're after is less, not more.
我们要有选择性地 We want to be selective
从头开始启动 and rebuild this from the ground up.
这意味着我们需要一个新的篇章 That means we need a new story.
就是这里 Just here.
这里 谢谢你 Here. Thank you.
40 不用找了 Make it 40.
谢谢 Thank you.
你没有感觉到胜利的喜悦吗？ Didn't you feel triumphant?
现在我们可以真正理解音乐的意义是什么了 Now we can really understand what the meaning of music is.
这是它让你听到时的感觉 It's the way it makes you feel when you hear it.
最后 我们已经迈出了最后的一大步 Finally, we've taken that last giant step.
而我们就在那里 我们现在知道音乐意味着什么了 And we're there. We know what music means now.
我们不必为了理解音乐而知道 And we don't have to know a lot of stuff about sharps
很多关于升号降号 和弦以及所有这些事情 and flats and chords and all that business
只要它能告诉我们一些东西就行 in order to understand music if it tells us something.
而最美妙的事情是 音乐让你产生的不同感受 And the most wonderful thing of all is that there's no limit to
是没有限制的 the different kinds of feelings music can make you have.
而其中一些感情是如此特别 如此深刻 And some of those feelings are so special and so deep
甚至无法用语言来描述 that they can't even be described in words.
我们并不总是能说出 You see, we can't always name
我们感觉到的东西 the things we feel.
有时可以 Sometimes we can.
我们可以说我们感到快乐 We can say we feel joy,
愉悦 平和 不管是什么 爱 恨 pleasure, peacefulness, whatever, love, hate.
但总有那么一段时间 But every once in a while,
我们会有着非常特殊 非常深的感情 we have feelings that are so deep and so special
以至于我们无以言说 that we have no words for them.
而这正是音乐的奇妙之处 And that's where music is so marvelous,
因为音乐为我们述说的这种感情 because music names them for us,
只是在音符中 而不是在文字中 only in notes instead of in words.
这一切都体现在音乐的运动中 It's all in the way music moves.
你决不能忘记 音乐是运动着的 You must never forget that music is movement,
总是要去某个地方 从一个音符到另一个音符 always going somewhere, shifting and changing
的转变和变化和流动 and flowing from one note to another.
这种运动可以告诉我们更多关于 And that movement can tell us
我们的感受 这比数以万计的字传递的感情多得多 more about the way we feel than a million words can.
接下来 我们将为您演奏一段 And here we're going to play you a...
托尼 Tony.
哦 Oh.
你好 琳达 Hi, Linda.
抱歉 Sorry.
莉迪亚 Lydia.
妈妈说你会过来的 Ma said you'd be over.
你一定是躲起来了 You must be hiding out.
我为什么要躲起来？ Why would I be hiding out?
你真让我大吃一惊 Beats the hell out of me.
反正不关我的事 None of my business anyhow.
你得承认 还有很多未完成的工作 Lot of loose ends, you got to admit.
你什么意思？ What do you mean?
就像我说的 这不关我的事 Well, like I said, it ain't my business.
但你似乎不知道你到底是从哪里来的 But you don't seem to know where the hell you came from
也不知道你要去哪里 or where you're going.
我可以进去吗？ May I come inside?
谢谢 Thank you.
抱歉 Um, I'm so sorry.
我们只是想确认一下 作曲家实际上 Uh, we just wanted to confirm that the composer was in fact
不是从大阪飞来参加音乐会的 not flying in from Osaka to attend the concert.
哦 Oh.
我必须得告诉你 我在音乐图书馆里 I-I must tell you that I-I looked in the music libraries,
找过她的乐谱 但我没有找到 uh, for her score, but I-I couldn't find anything.
乐谱在这里 -This just arrived. -Ah.
很好 谢谢 That's great. Thank you.
雪莉和西里奥将无比荣幸能带您参观 Shirley and Cirio will be most happy to show you
-我们国家美丽的风景 -谢谢 -the sights of our beautiful country. -Oh. Thank you.
非常感谢 Thank you so much.
天呐 Oh, goodness.
谢谢你们 Thank-thank you.
也许我们可以在某个地方停下来 游个泳 Maybe we could stop somewhere and take a swim.
可以 在瀑布边可以游 Yeah, at the waterfall.
但不能在河里 But, mm, not in the river.
为什么？水有什么问题吗？ Why? Is there something wrong with the water?
水没有问题 水里有鳄鱼 N-No. There are crocodiles.
哦 Oh.
我没想到它们会到内陆这么远的地方 I didn't think they'd be this far inland.
它们从马龙·自兰度的电影片场中逃出来的 They escaped from Marlon Brando movie.
哇 Wow.
那是很久以前的事了 That was a long time ago.
它们幸存下来 They survive.
女士 女士 Lady. Lady.--
这是你的处方药 Here is prescription.
-十美金 -谢谢 -Ten dollars. -Oh. Thank you.
这附近有没有什么地方 谢谢 Uh, is there somewhere around here-- thank you--
可以让我去按摩的吗？ where I could get a massage?
我想按摩能帮助我倒一下时差 Was hoping it might help me with this jet lag.
嗯 Hmm.
有的 Yes.
有一个我知道的非常好的地方 There is the very nice place I know.
谢谢 Thank you.
请前往鱼缸区 Please step over to the fishbowl.
鱼缸？ The... the fishbowl?
是的 那边走 Yes, over there.
抱歉 我迷糊了 Um, I'm sorry, I'm confused.
我该怎么做？ H-How does this... how does it work?
您在这里选一个号码 You just pick a number here.
选一个号码？ I pick a number?
是的 Yes.
五号？ Number five?
早上好 Good morning.
在我们开始之前 我们先谈一谈作曲家 Now, before we begin, let's-let's talk a bit about
创作这首作品的意图 the composer's intent with this piece.
以及她可能在追求什么 And what she might be after.
五分钟 Five minutes.
谢谢 Thank you.
第五舰队的姐妹们和兄弟们 是时候了 Sisters and brothers of the Fifth Fleet, it's time.
我的告别将简短有力 I'll keep my farewell brief.
我从来都不善于言辞 Never was much with words.
一旦你登上这艘船 就没有回头路了 Once you board this ship, there's no turning back.
你踏足的下一块土地将是新世界的土地 The next ground your feet touch will be that of the New World.
如果你们当中有人失去了勇气 If any of you have lost your nerve,
那么现在就走吧 不要让人来批判你 then step away now and let no one judge you.